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freedom man that's what it's all about [Music] you've got to groove on freedom like the good book says [Music] welcome you are listening to what on earth is happening this show will discuss the topics of human consciousness mind control natural law the occult and all issues that affect the freedom of the people of earth what on earth is happening will endeavor to shine light upon the darkness of our world and to offer empowering solutions to the problems we face as humanity approaches its critical moment of choice and now here is your host mark pascio [Music] welcome one and all you're watching what on earth is happening i'm your host mark pacio my website what on earth is happening dot com ladies and gentlemen government is slavery and here on what on earth is happening we are ending slavery one mind at a time welcome one and all thank you for tuning in today today is episode number 245 of what on earth is happening it is sunday march 6 2022 and we are going to be coming at you with a call-in show today on the topic of the state of software and the satanic mindset of software developers i did the entire uh presentation last week and i explained in that presentation why this is such an important a critically important topic for people to understand and very unfortunately i think that most people still do not understand this topic and so we're going to talk about it more today i am expecting even perhaps uh some people who have worked directly in software development to call in so we'll see what they have to bring to the table on this topic before we get into the calls today uh i do have a few uh housekeeping announcements so i'm gonna switch over to my laptop and go through a few of those and then do a very brief review before going to your calls so let's jump on over okay so as i said today's topic the state of software and the satanic mindset of software developers your calls coming up in a few moments here on what on earth is happening we're on a new streamlined 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work through the gifts area i also said that i will be accepting a personal check and money order for this year's enrollment uh the how to become the true media seminar 2022 is a intensive online tech sharing tech skill sharing seminar and i will be hosting it on the telegram platform this year we are moving over from zoom to telegram uh we have tested it pretty extensively and it looks like it's going to be a good option for hosting the seminar so that's the uh platform it will be hosted on and it will now take place every monday evening this uh this year this uh uh six month period and it will happen 8 p.m to 11 p.m us eastern time every monday from july 11th to december 12th for a total of 23 class sessions so the how to become the true media spans 23 weeks we usually even get together one extra week as just a bonus celebration session where there's no course instruction where we just chat and talk about our experiences in the seminar and i make sure everybody has their completion 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all i did was wrestle with a new network card a nic card that i'm attend i was attempting to put into my computer just as a brief anecdote about how terrible uh any kind of developers whether they be software or hardware uh just do not put the extra time and care into the projects that they put out and you know i know it's difficult i know there's tons of configurations of hardware you know but i i had to literally yesterday and and the day before just go through driver settings manually you know low level drive driver settings in in the advanced driver section you know of of uh windows device manager finding this totally obscure setting you know to get a nic card working where i call their technical support they couldn't do it their tech people were terrible couldn't get it working making ridiculous suggestions that i rewire my network you know or that i simply get a different logic board a different motherboard for my computer you know it's like i mean you have to be kidding it's like yeah let me just rip everything out of here you know and it's not any of those things that they're they're just ill-equipped to be able to troubleshoot they're they're not good troubleshooters the people who are paid to do this job uh you know if i were working at their company i'd run circles around them as far as even analyzing diagnosing problems this is what i did for a career for years and i was considered the best troubleshooter at any of the places i worked at regardless of who liked me personally or not even people who didn't particularly like me they did they they thought my personality was maybe a little bit abrasive none of them could say a word about my technical skills because i take my time i look at everything i make a informed judgment about what to do and then i am able to fix issues and most people don't do that they you know just um they look at things cursorly and do the easy thing you know or suggest things that have nothing to do with it and while it took me the better part of two whole days of work i sat there until i got it working and that's what how to become the true media is all about folks it's about persistence it's about finding things and making finding issues analyzing things making it work for you persistence in doing those tasks never giving up there's life lessons in that there's life lessons when it comes to the great work how many people have given up doing the great work because it's hard because it takes a lot of time because it takes a lot of effort and they say oh they throw up their hands and say oh i'm done with this you know taking this seminar is not just a technical um education it's a it's a life education if you read between the lines and understand that what i'm saying when it comes to technology has everything to do with how you live your life as well it can the all of those axioms and principles can just as equally be applied to general life skills and you know the way you live your life so if you want to join us today uh for this call in show visit what on earth is happening dot com slash discord that will redirect you directly to the discord call-in room uh i recommend the discord app i don't recommend doing this on the web i mean you can if you want but basically web browsers don't handle discord as well as the app does so you want to get the app the discord app first that's my recommendation also if you're going to call in please use a headset a usb headset or at the very minimum earbuds and a decent microphone so we don't get echo in the call if i hear a lot of echo in your call i'll probably opt to disconnect your call also in the what on earth is happening a call-in room on the uh what on earth is happening discord server uh you should change your nickname to use your real name i'm not going to call on people with ridiculous internet handles as i said in the past weeks i find it childish and i really don't even want to attempt to do that on the air um so use your real name don't be an anonymous coward use your real name on my server and i will call you uh if you use your real name if you don't use your real name i'm not even gonna look at your um at the at the possibility of bringing you live on the air so that's just how it is if people don't like it you know then don't call in or get your own show and do it your way so um that's the link for calling into the show you could also use water on earth as happening dot com slash show if you're watching the show there there is a discord widget on the uh page underneath the player and you could just click connect there and that will send you into the discord app um into our call-in room i'll be uh ready to go when i call on you i'll unmute you from the server end you don't have the option to unmute yourself i will do that from the server end and you will be live so before we go to your calls let's review a little bit about the state of software and as i said last week uh this is one of the most important topics that we could actually discuss here on what on earth is happening and i think that a lot of people were thrown a curve when i brought this topic up i know some people were excited to hear about this topic i got a few emails about it i got a few comments on my social media about it saying that you know people couldn't wait for me to do this topic because they know people who are software developers and they know what they're like personally in life and the show last week probably confirmed everything that they had previously thought about most of these people not all of them and the reason it's important has to be very deeply understood in people's minds who want freedom to manifest so one of the first things i want to review is you have to understand that this is definitely not my opinion it is absolute objective fact that freedom and software go hand in hand and can't be separated in the modern world if there's no technology and we're living in ancient stone age times then okay software has nothing to do with freedom today in the here and now computer systems exist and they connect everybody through information if you don't like it tough as nails that's how the world actually is and that's how the world actually works and here and now where you are at where you are living on earth in the year 2022 see this is where people i think have a total disconnect in their own mindset even people who watch the show even people who say that they want freedom even even people who say that they're awake they have to understand there's more to it there's more to any of this whole enterprise in doing the great work and waking people up then somebody just knowing what's going on because they stumbled into the information but then again how did they stumble into the information right this is this is what constantly has to be logically thought through people who don't understand why software is important have to ask the question why is it important it definitely does matter it is important it is critical right and that means that you have to be have somewhat of an interest in how software is developed even if you know nothing about how that process works you should be concerned with how software is actively being developed and put out into the world because content creators like myself are always using software to communicate you are watching this right now as a direct result of many many many pieces of software i have to have a good graphics program and able to make an interface for the show i have to have a good streaming software in order to stream the show i have to have a good streaming platform in order to ingest the video stream all of that is done with software okay if those saw i have to have um in order to get it on my network uh you know the ability to send that over over my local area network the video in full you know full frame full motion so all of these different seemingly disparate pieces of software have to work together and seamlessly then i have to have software to announce it and put it out on the web and embed the video streams in the in those platforms all of that is done with software everything i've ever done with what on earth is happening to reach the minds of people in the public has been has been done through software without computers and software i would be a person living in south philadelphia talking to people who i bump into on the street or family members or friends who may be interested in what i have to say instead of having a worldwide platform where i could potentially reach millions of people and influence their minds for the better help them to change their lives and get power in their own life and realize that what is going on in the world as far as government and overreach of of government and even just the existence of government and the concept of people's one person or group of people's authority over others is inherently immoral and totally morally legit illegitimate i would never be able to reach minds on that scale to influence people like that if it weren't for software and obviously hardware you need the computers to run the software but without the software none of those communication and publishing possibilities ever even takes place so it's absolutely essential to the great work especially if you're going to look at becoming a content creator or take a class like um how to become the true media then you absolutely have to understand the state of software how software works what you can do with it best practices in software best options for software when you're looking to do a certain task we're going to cover all of that in the seminar so moving forward last week what i asked was why is the great work of ending human slavery not being accomplished and i think if you have a logically oriented mind you could easily understand that if software is used to do the great work to reach people's minds and influence them for the better most people don't understand how to use it they don't understand how to use it they don't even understand why it's important they don't they don't take an interest in it most people i know in life take no interest in this topic and that is the very reason we continue to be enslaved all the luddites out there who say no this isn't important no you're wrong mark no it's just about talking to people everybody who says that doesn't know what the they're talking about they're wrong they haven't seen the issue clearly enough and thought it through logically and they believe erroneously that the world is going to become improved magically without understanding this dynamic it will never occur that way okay it didn't occur that way in the past first of all let me just make just you know explain it like this in the past what did people use to try to wake people up well be before there was any real technology to be able to communicate and publish they used word of mouth that's all they had they didn't have the technology to spread the word okay what's the first technologies that came out writing writing implements paper and then they would write on scrolls and call and store them so that other people could make copies and then could distribute them this was the first form of rudimentary printing and then when the printing press was developed then we started using typefacing and making books and distributing those imagine how hard it was before there was even type setting and the printing press forget it writing things down on scrolls on parchment and trying to make hand duplicated copies of complex works this is what our ancestors did to preserve information and preserve knowledge and get it out to people we can't even imagine that in today's world we have it easy according to those standards we have it easy by comparison you know we could hold up a device in front of our face speak into it and publish that to millions of people potentially you know so what's our excuse our excuse is that we're ignorant and lazy and that's no excuse at all everybody has the ability to understand this technology and why it is important and we got to get out of denial that it isn't people are still in denial of this the world is what it is you're not going to make it go back to the stone age yourself maybe we all will collectively when we destroy each other and possibly this place that we live on you know uh out of our ignorance and stupidity but one person saying it's not important doesn't make it so you're just wrong that's all there is to that and your ego is in the way of seeing that you know and you know again regardless of who is saying this they have to understand the world is different they're not living in a world without technology you live in a world with this technology this is the method by which the word is going to get out it will not get out through spreading it you know by word of mouth one person to another though that train has left the station okay so i answered asked and answered this question correctly last week the reason the great work is not being done and human beings are still enslaved is because most human beings still have not understood the inseparable role that techno technological literacy has with freedom this is what's going to drive human freedom or stagnate it by how many people get involved or how many people refuse to get involved and like i said you could say i'm wrong until your dying breath and it still won't make it so i'm correct this is the correct answer obviously first you have to understand natural law you have to understand objective morality you have to have that right but if you can't communicate it and you can't publish it in a wide way you're not going to spread that knowledge to many other people in life this is why what i've done has made far more of an impact than what people who don't understand technology are ever capable of doing this is why what i've done with one great work network amplifies the effort and makes it reach infinitely more people than it would have and more people have to understand this and start jumping on this train you know so i asked other people to ask the question if you go out and ask people how they woke up how did you awaken to the whole control system how did you awaken the government was slavery how did you awaken that authority is morally illegitimate how did you awaken to natural law how did you awaken to objective morality what will almost everybody in the world tell you most people in the modern day will tell you they understood all of those things because they received that information in some digital format through the internet whether they downloaded books through the internet whether they downloaded audio through the internet whether they watched videos and documentaries and lectures etc through the internet most people woke up through the digital mechanism of digital media that's just a fact of life no how many p few people will tell you i woke up from reading books that is true yes okay not not going to dismiss the important of printed books because yes some people will tell you they woke up from reading but in today's world that's less of a factor and the the infinitely greater factor is they watch something on the internet they listen to something on the internet they downloaded something and read it on the internet they read articles they read books things that had been published digitally on the internet that's the mechanism by which the world is or is not going to wake up we'll wake up when more people recognize the truth that is on the internet take it into themselves okay process it understand it and then act rightly upon it and if you don't understand that i'm sorry yours you yourself are asleep brainwashed under mind control and simply wrong that is not my opinion that is objective reality i understand the objective reality of that fact that's all and i'm repeating it that is not my opinion of how the world is waking up and will continue to wake up that is how it is meaning that is the truth if you're being honest with yourself if you want to lie to yourself and blow smoke up your own ass go right ahead and go continue to lie to yourself that we're gonna um wake the world up by putting stickers in subway cars you know or on the toilets in uh pubs okay yeah obviously that helps promote certain things or ideas but that's not how people are going to wake up they're going to have to go to websites they're going to have to go to digital publishing platforms of some type for video for audio for books and if people don't do it that way they're slow in their process of awakening it could happen by different means but it's going to be unimaginably slow if we want it to happen in the time that we have before we destroy ourselves or government destroys the world which we're rapidly heading toward we have to use the mechanism of digital publishing and digital communication unfortunately the vast majority of human beings exist in a state of total illiteracy complete ignorance of how this process works how many people could make a website how many people could publish a podcast how many people could make a documentary how many people could make a video show like this not many how many people even know how to edit a graphic or make it a text document or publish a pdf book not many these are all the skills we're going to teach and how to become the true media so people exist in this total state of technological illiteracy when it comes to how to publish and communicate through modern forms of media and that's why the great work isn't being done folks if if this is your state of ignorance and you don't know anything you're doing with a computer to create to publish to communicate how are you helping obviously some people can contribute other skill sets obviously some people can contribute resources those are are valid methods of helping obviously i'm not i'm not discounting that what i'm saying is if you want to really try to influence minds yourself you're not helping by just talking to a few people that you may not reach yourself first of all close friends and family members may not even be willing to listen to you because they're just like oh that's just crazy gym or that's just crazy sally and why should i bother even listening to them they got to hear it from a lot of people they have to hear it in one of their own social circles they have to hear it online they have to stumble across it perhaps in relation to something that just happened in their life or relation into recent world events then they'll start listening it'll slowly start opening up their world view but if we remain ignorant of how to communicate that and publish those that that type of material what what how how is that ever going to reach people's eyes and ears i mean this should be just common sense right and software has everything to do with that because the great work will never be accomplished until the knowledge of how to publish and communicate in the modern digital age is acquired by people and then put into action put into right action and put into practice in their lives and these are the technical competencies that i'm going to teach as part of the how to become the true media seminar very successful over the last two years i expect this year to be no different the problem comes in with software and the engineers of software software developers are a big part of the problem and roadblock when it comes to this dynamic software is critically important to human freedom because it is the very mechanism that allows people to engage in modern communications and publishing without computers and software well-written software we can't effectively do that job as content creators i mean just think it through from a common sense point of view folks this is what most people don't do you know then they hold on to their ill-informed uneducated ignorant opinion and try to say i'm wrong and i don't know what i'm talking about no it's the exact opposite way around i do definitively know what i'm talking about and i am correct when it comes to this dynamic and you know folks i'm sorry i have to repeat it and just be sort of an ass like that but you you can't imagine you cannot even imagine people who i've already told i don't really want your opinion i know what i'm talking about and doing and you could see this as ego i don't really give a it doesn't matter to me i know my goal i know my mission i know my plan you're not going to take me off of it but i am going to comment on the continued stupidity of the human heard the continued total lack of understanding of people that then want to get in touch with me believe look folks if you're a dumbass if you're a if you have absolute mush for a brain if you're totally incompetent human being if you have no common sense i don't want to speak to you you're useless to me and my mission that's it i only want to speak to people who are driven who are intelligent who want to assist who have the ability to assist if you're a total piece of dross you are of no use to the mission i am on and i'm not here to make friends i am here on a mission i am here to accomplish that mission not just talk about it not just say i want to do it i'm here to do it and succeed in doing it so again i'm going to implore everybody you don't need to contact mark pacio and tell me anything i don't need your commute i don't need your personal communication i don't need it or want it i want you to communicate by making media and broadcasting it to the world do you understand yet and i don't even care whether you care that that's what i want to see you don't need to care about that i'm trying to explain i don't want opinions on what i do here i'm not interested in your opinion on what i do here i'm going to do what i do here regardless of what the you think about it i don't understand how it could be any clearer but i think i need to keep reiterating this i also need to keep reiterating that if you're a new viewer to this show don't start here all the current episodes of what on earth is happening are built upon cumulative prerequisite information that comes in the earlier shows so you should watch the show listen to the show and watch the show from podcast number one on the what on earth is happening podcast section starting at number one and proceeding forward at your own pace you should not skip around you should not listen to the most recent episodes first you will not understand the framework of this information if you don't have all of the previous episodes in your mind as a framework for understanding and i this is confirmed to me continually con confirmed 100 definitively continually that almost everybody who tries to start listening to the later podcast is lost and has not they can't they don't have any framework for what i'm even saying in their mind at all no understanding for the words that are leaving my lips then when people tell me mark i took your advice oh i saw your show i watched online when you were live i had no i hated you and i had no idea what the you were on about what the you were talking about at all i thought you were just some jackass spouting some nonsense i didn't know why it was important i had no framework for the understanding of what you were talking about and many of the things that you were saying i didn't even understand at all that's because it's all explained in the earlier episodes it's built like a stepwise class just like you can't come into how to become the true media episode 18 until you get 1 through 17 and practice those methods and techniques you wouldn't want to jump in the class at episode 17. just like you wouldn't want to start watching what on earth is happening at episode 245 you need the earlier classes that's what this is this is a stepwise progression class look at it that way you don't jump to the end of the textbook and start reading in chapter 32. if you want a basic understanding you need to start at the beginning and go forward in order linearly this is a linear progression of information so i asked and answered the question last week what's wrong with the software developers mind the software developer is largely locked into a left brain only paradigm of thought and mentation their consciousness and worldview is informed largely only by the left brain now again that doesn't mean that the whole right brain is shut down and there's no activity in it it means that as the phrase goes when uh you know certain parts of the brain wire together they fire together okay or i'm sorry the opposite when they fire together they wire together meaning that they establish a a neural um collective or group that tends to continue to work the same way and lock someone into a pattern of behavior and thought thought and behavior because our behavior is informed by our thoughts and until they develop a more holistic mindset that incorporates the right mind that incorporates common sense that incorporates compassion and incorporates heart based intelligence and creativity okay they're missing a whole entirety of a worldview in a paradigm that they could incorporate into their software that would actually make their software and their business model infinitely more successful that's why a lot of software developers jump to the easy fix right they're they're not getting good nutrition so they they just jump to i just want the easy to uh you know simple carbs that are not really that great for you because they're not even from a good nutritious source they're from some poisoned uh you know non-natural product and they'll give you a big jolt in energy and then a big drop down a big uh you know crash likening it to people who are stuck in a bad pattern of nutrition it's the same thing when it comes to how we feed our mind and these people could see a huge improvement in their whole way of living in their whole business model and their whole you know dynamic of prosperity if they would change their thoughts but most of them are locked into that left brain only world view and pattern of behavior of thought and behavior and as long as they stay stuck in that left brain you know this dynamic isn't going to improve and it needs a lot of improvement because it's in a deplorable condition right now we talked about that their mindset has become satanic by being locked in that left brain modality and that doesn't mean that they worship the devil this is what people again one of the main things i've struggled with being able to successfully do is explain to people what satanism is if you you're a new listener you should go back and watch my earlier podcasts on this topic you should watch my presentations on it demystifying the occult part 2 satanism and the dark occult where i lay out what this ideology really is and yes i do know what it really is no this is not my opinion the whole world view is about egotism moral relativism social darwinism eugenics dysgenics etc it's a way of viewing the world it's a way of thinking in the world it's a way of acting in the world it is not about worship of anything this is what religion has told you this is what hollywood has told you and you want to take it from idiots who want to deceive you you want to be an idiot by listening to people who want to deceive you then go ahead be that idiot it's your funeral and it's unfortunately other people's funeral because of that ignorance but if you want to be informed listen to somebody who was active on the inside of satanism and that's me i was in this cult in my youth and eventually came out of it and reformed my mind reformed my spirit and i'm trying to give people the very playbook of these lunatics of these psychopaths who run the world this is the religion that runs the world ladies and gentlemen the religion of the masters of the world is satanism and people better get their head out from up their ass and understand it's not about worshiping a a guy in a red suit with uh horns and a tail and hooves you know that's some religious notion it's called satanism because it's about the ego it's about not caring about anybody else except yourself and maybe your own family or friends you know you don't care about anything in a wider way you live only for creature comfort you live only for your own personal comfort and satisfaction you don't care about what's going on in the world at a wider scale you don't get involved in any of that to try to help improve the human condition pure selfishness and egotism and that's what we looked at last week the mindset of egotism and selfishness that leads to the mindset of modern software developers because they're latched in that satanic left brain worldview and modalities of thought their motivation is driven only by money or entirely largely by it and again i made i said this isn't a blanket statement not all of them are like this but the vast majority close to 99 i'd say over 98 percent of software developers have this mindset and that's why they're making it very difficult in in conjunction with big tech modern software developers are making it very difficult for content creators to get their word out effectively and efficiently yes it can be done if you know the right software to use and you know how to use it but there's so many junk options out there just junk written like junk interface like junk whole mindset of setting it up is junk they have this rigid and narrow vision of what they believe software should be or do they don't want to change they don't want to look at modern improvements to it they're doing things like they were doing it back in the early unix days where there was no user interfaces the the ui of their program is terrible the ux or user experience of their program is terrible a good developer doesn't just write core functionality into their software a good developer writes an excellent user interface for modern software you know we're not talking about uh just doing command line applications for some speciality server we're talking about what 99 of the average public is going to use and want to be functional and want to have ease of use and functionality in that software and that requires a good ui user interface and a good ux user experience this is designing software properly they uh most software developers have an ego driven and overly prideful view of their own work which is often sub-par and not that good and yet they think oh this is good enough and nobody even sits and tells them your software stinks man you know you're terrible at what you do you you think your doesn't stink and it's it sucks it's bad most developers are write terrible terrible software i i'd say over 90 of developers write total for software in the modern world that's practically unusable practically unusable and what they're doing is as i was saying before never actually got to the the content never completed the thought they're going for the easy fix like somebody going to easy carbs for nutrition that doesn't really hold up then they go because all they want is the money so they go to writing games on ios or games on android you know garbage total purposeless garbage that is a time waster that is not there to help improve anything let alone the human condition it's there to keep people engaged so they'll give them another dollar in their in their add-on uh to the game or whatever you know in-app purchases this is where the modern software developers mine most of them are at not all of them but most of them you know that easy fix i'm gonna make the game that a million people will buy sell it for a buck and i'll be a millionaire instead of selling excellent software or releasing excellent software via open source that it has pride put into it attention put into it deep work put into it to help contribute to the human condition to making it better there's that's purpose driven software and most software developers have this left left brained view of i know everything i need to know i don't need to hear anything from anybody and again i said last week you could liken that to me but the difference is they're incorrect and i am correct i've obsessively studied what i study i obsessively took in the knowledge that i take in if you don't believe that get the ark and you'll see how much knowledge i've taken in and more the ark is just the subset you know and then you'll know how obsessive it is when i've come to the data about how this world works because i have that big picture thinking and capability i have the iq to process it i have big picture heuristic systems view of things which is why the satanist wanted to tap that potential in me and make me part of their agenda and plans and goals fortunately i saw through that before i got involved enough and was able to leave of my own accord voluntarily which not everyone is permitted to do that but at my level of involvement you are because i did not participate in their crimes i was not involved at that level i was at involved at a very low level being vetted to be groomed to go up into those higher levels at which you will not be permitted to leave and fortunately for me i left before that occurred so last week i also showed the solution to this what considerations do software developers have to focus on and really work toward uh implementing and improving they their motivation has to change from profit driven motive to a purpose-driven motive what purpose should this software fulfill in human life instead of am i going to get a dollar for every game i sell you know you see the difference there there's a big one they need to tailor the user interface and user experience of the software that they're developing in such a way that makes the software intuitive meaning easy to figure out how to use so the users will want to use it and then they will want to support the development of that program by buying it and continuing to buy it when new releases come out they have to make an honest and accurate assessment of their own strengths and weaknesses when it comes to their software writing abilities and the products that they release most don't do that they toot their own horn when there's no reason to honk that horn they're honking really loud but they look like a clown honk your horn when you actually have developed your abilities and you've put out an excellent product then honk all you want but right now you're honking and you look like a clown don't be bobo software developers you know you know you know you don't you don't want to be this guy see you don't want to be him and that's where most of you are at you're emulating bobo and you're honking your horn and you got no reason to be honking it because your stinks and it's not that good you just think it's good you know i i know i'm talking a harsh game when it comes to this but once again i do know what i'm talking about i am correct i know what the state of software is because i use tons and tons of it every single damn day and it is more and more and more of a house of cards that has to be navigated as opposed to just being used with the intent that it's supposed to be used for for the purpose it's supposed to be used for half of the time is troubleshooting and getting things that are supposed to just work to work at all unfortunately and that's because these people are acting like this and they're not putting enough thought into their work because again they're in that left brain ego based mindset and you think you're doing a good job and you're not doing a good job like i said people can try to apply that to myself but there's a difference i do have the correct answer i do have the truth i'm not going to put it out there in a way that is uh baby spooning it to people and me wearing a mask i did that long enough in the early days of what on earth is happening and i'm beating myself up over being that nice guy in the early days i think i did people some people say oh they wouldn't have listened to you unless you did it like that and then i think i did them a disservice by not just putting it out there direct with no with no mask on you know because i was half a bobo in the early days of what on earth is happening by not just putting it out there blatantly the way i do now you know i figured okay i'm going to tell people i was into satanism but i'm also going to be relatively nice because they'll want to listen until they get the information now being that nice guy i think i did it long enough you know because look at how many people actually did listen and get involved a piss ant handful and that's why the the the satanic globalists are turning everybody into bobo here you know they've boboized the world let's go back to the solutions here so don't be bobo and make an honest assessment of your work and toot your horn only when it's really justified to do so because when you toot it when your your stuff's not that good you look like a bobo that you are and then they finally have to have willingness to listen to their users and make improvements that align with the original intent and purpose of the software because many of them don't do that you know there's glaring things that can be improved and they don't do it and it's even maybe listed as a bug forever i'll give you one example right i've seen numerous people put this you know observation on forms and things like that vlc for mac versus vlc for windows in the mac version i could take a video item like an mp4 file and i could drag drag and drop it wherever i want in the playlist if i want it i if i want it to be item 75 in the playlist i scroll down and i insert it you can't do that on windows you have to drop it in it's got to go all the way to the bottom even if you have a thousand items in the playlist then you have to slowly drag it up from the playlist why that shouldn't be that difficult to implement through drag and drop from the operating system if the developer cares about doing it properly and it's just a nicety yeah can i do it but yeah is it an extra very annoying step that i could potentially mess up things in my playlist mess up the order of things yeah why not just give me that line that you the developer did it on the mac it's because it's probably a different team writing the mac version then the windows version and they don't build feature parity because they don't care about that nicety of that integration of feature parity across platforms that's just one one thing and many users have told them about this they just don't care and they don't want to implement it they say i have bigger fish to fry i have more things i want to work on but again if the interface isn't working the way it should as expected according to general user interface and user experience convention a lot of people are going to look at that software as a piece of junk and this is stuff that should just be out of the box right it shouldn't be five years ten years down the line that that should have been not an issue in release version one you start writing things with bugs in it like that that's beta software it's not release quality software you know and people will say oh you're being too harsh on people you're not a developer we went over this last week you don't have to be a developer to know what good ui and ux is as a matter of fact most people who deeply focus on the ui and the ux aren't developers they tell the developers how to implement those feature sets because they know that the developers can't see it because of their brain imbalance they intuitively know that without really knowing the actual neuroscience behind it and that's why you have ui teams or ux teams that tell developers hey no you can't leave this like this you got to get this right in the ui you got to get this right in the user experience otherwise people ain't going to want to use this there's whole teams of people who that's their their job and believe me i could manage a team like that if i really wanted to that's how much i know about how general ui and ux works i may not be able to code in see plus plus or c sharp but i could tell the dev the developer you're not doing this right as far as the whole user experience goes so that's my review i just want to put these other quick announcements out and then we're going to go to your calls on discord arc 2.0 is available it's been available for over a year now 26 000 audio files 9500 books 3400 videos all on one two terabyte drive that you send to me this is from the best of of all of the information that i have aggregated and accumulated from the internet over the years i put it on a two terabyte drive for you for more information about the ark offer and to get shipping directions visit what on earth is happening dot com slash ark if you want any hard copies of any of my work including flash drives dvds t-shirts coasters stickers buttons etcetera visit gifts.what 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here so um i was hoping to talk to a former uh individual individual who formerly or actually might actually still be working inside software development but i'm not actually seeing him in the calling room so let's uh go to a few other people and see what they have to say let's hear from robert robert you are live on water and welcome back in the condo there too sorry i i'm from the middle of a tattoo i'm sorry oh no problem do you want to still uh take and you still want to ask a question you know i was uh i was uh just calling i just to give you my total like appreciation like i'm so grateful that i i really found you and you opened my eyes and i would love to talk but i'm a tattoo artist and i'm at someone my client just got here and i thought i disconnected but i did it not a problem uh you can continue listening in uh you know and i appreciate uh that's exactly what i'm doing i'm so sorry dude i i'm a major fan of you like no worries i i appreciate that uh thank you for the compliment and that i'm glad that the information has uh helped you to see what's going on so thank you thank you brother like for real and i i will call next next week i'm sorry i thought i disconnected my client just walked in this is kind of crazy um damn dude all right let's hear from dennis dennis you are live on what on earth is happening what do you have for us hey how are you doing mark not bad yourself good good uh if you remember we talked a few weeks ago about told you i'm a software developer retired from that now but i know that kind of stuff and they were going to contact me but you didn't yes so what what do you uh well i you know i've been extremely busy with different tech uh issues here at what on earth is happening uh if you sent me a text in discord i will eventually get around to getting back to you but uh now that you're on the air i guess you could put it out there to everyone what did do you see uh what i'm referring to in the software community in in the software world what's your take on it having actually worked in this environment yeah i'm trained in c plus plus object-oriented program that kind of those kind of languages java these kind of things i know but when i worked i worked as low level c grungy level mid-lane bits and bytes and yeah i know the whole software industry it's driven by money what the customer wants and so no matter how good a greater feature you want like you say the high the project management they've got the high abstract skills they've worked in the business so they know the business itself and they can direct the developers who got that left brain nitty gritty get the logic right get the code right and get all that grunge stuff out right but you really gotta have both right but you know they're they've got a bit of both but they they separate the project management from the developers because they do things differently right sure but being that i've i've worked as a pharmacist and i worked in the program the very software i used to use as a pharmacist so i developed that left brain and the right brain and the intuitive and i'm also a writer and spiritually minded so i think i've got a pretty good balance now although i went through some difficult things i'm much more balanced i think and how i think left and right so when you're talking about programmers or left brain yeah they do they do stuck in that logic nitty-gritty uh they're not too abstract well they're abstract but it's not largely yeah i can't say it's all the time or a total blanket statement but largely that is the the augmentation right so yeah the best ones and then the sloppy well that i got some developers they got good skills they want to maybe do more but it's all run by the project management and what the customer wants i i have a couple of money jobs for you um how how much would you say there's a ratio or a split between core code functionality of actually the functions of the software and what it will do under the hood uh or with data transforms of any kind versus how much uh attention and uh you know refinement is put into the user interface and user experience what would you say is the general breakdown when it comes to the developer now obviously the higher level management team is going to consider those functions but if you simply look at the developer's mind how much do would you say that they make a split between core code functionality versus ui ux they're more than the ones i worked with to the core coding functionality and they did gritty spaghetti code they didn't do object-oriented it's like you just jump out of a switch or a an if statement and it's hard to follow logical they don't follow standards it's just how they're trained it's just the attitude is as long as it works as long as you get it working and if that if that correct right doesn't matter the user experience when it comes to actually using the ui right how right functional and efficient of an experience and how much of a positive experience that will be for the user because if it's clunky right and it's uh buggy with the ui or if it's very non-intuitive and hard to understand when it comes to the ui the user experience on the other end of that piece of software is going to be terrible and the user is not really going to want to use it even if it does do the core functionality like um right that's why you need project management and quality assurance to jump in there and give the developer some help absolutely absolutely so because they just want to get it working how's it work the other thing that you talked about and i have one other question after this um is that um they don't really have follow standards for things like that like um right i noticed that um uh software developers very rarely unless they're very attuned with the needs of the community that they're writing for they don't even write with standard interfaces for the operating system which are actually provided by the os developer like microsoft or apple uh in different apis and and uh low-level um you know um uh object-oriented stuff that they could be given that code for free that that adds right native operating system functionality into their application and most of them want to reinvent the wheel they they could they could integrate this stuff that's already tightly integrated into the operating system but they're not really writing against the operating system they're writing from ground up reinventing the wheel instead of writing the app for the native operating system platform that they're going to be releasing it on i see that over and over and over and over and over again when it comes to modern software do you concur with that uh do you see that that's what developers largely do yeah yeah pretty much i i dealt with a lot of c and it was all you you build the carburetor you don't just buy the carburetor and plug it in that's more object-oriented type you just buy the carburetor and someone else builds it right it's much easier and with the core functionality i can understand wanting to write it your own way i don't have a problem with that i'm talking more about the user interface where they'll like make their whole own button sets or make their own widgets when the operating system if you're using you know an ide for that particular operating system will provide a lot of that stuff for all of it and then it will make it look and function more like a native uh app on that operating system as opposed to having looking at everything and going oh this is completely alien what does this do what's this you know interface uh element for you know um there's no we have very high for a reason in in um at least um uh on the mac platform uh apple released uh things and i'm sure microsoft has the equivalent of this on windows uh they call it human interface guidelines uh when it comes to elements of uh you know the the ui the positioning of elements uh you know um how they could be set up in in uh in a position on the screen and groups things like that it's called h i g human interface guidelines a lot of developers have never even heard of this and um it's something that if i think developers looked into more um they would write their app in a way that takes advantage of uh native user interface uh on the platform that they're writing on right makes sense because i didn't do a lot of app development but yeah you just use what's there and what's convenient what was the best for the customers or you know user's experience makes a lot of sense at least in the user interface user experience again core functionality i understand you want to write your own functions you you don't want to just plug in something else that you took from someone else that's understandable and i don't have any problem with that um so the last thing i wanted to ask you about before i let you go and go on to some other callers was um what about um open source have you ever been involved in any open source uh free and open source projects or did you only work with proprietary software just proprietary but uh open source uh well it's money driven right developer and maybe even commenting that would be wonderful state what's what do you think the state of open source uh development is is at at this point if you had to gauge it i think it's pretty low i'd have to agree and we're hearing this from a developer being honest on the air with us now let me ask you this why do you think that is as a developer why do you think it is i i've put out my you know commentary and uh you know take on this many times my opinion but as a developer yourself what is your opinion as to why the quality of a lot of free and open source software projects is very low compared to proprietary projects that are paid uh selfish human nature you want to make money you want to get the best out there and you want to keep it your secret and charge a lot of money for it right now let me ask you this if that is the case and i understand i get why they have this profit motive obviously everybody wants good quality of life wants to be able to eat pay their bills have a house understood that that's human right however why can't the open source developers reach to something better higher purpose that is purpose-driven why if they want the software to be free for their users then why can't they make that shift in consciousness to say no matter whether i make money at this or not in the long term why can't they go toward that purpose-driven motive release attachment from the profit motive and really really really put their heart and soul into making something that is very very very good so is it a matter of not being able to find enough people for the team effort because obviously a lot of software isn't one person it's a team effort but can only money organize that in your opinion or can it be can that profit motive be transcended and people come into the free and open source software community as developers working as a team for a higher purpose and amp up the quality to the level of proprietary software or even beyond because they have a purpose-driven motive is that is that possible and how do you think they get there yeah it's money motivated i mean suppose you had bill gates says here you just do so open source guys and i'm gonna give money is no object go ahead and do it make the best open source you can we're gonna give it away for free even if bill gates totally funded it uh there's still something in human nature that says if you're not gonna charge if i'm not paying a lot of money for it's not good quality if it's not paying around the same price as what a competitor in the market is is gonna charge for it it's crap but even it's not it's excellent yeah i understand that mindset it's definitely not the case because some free and open source software is excellent excellent i mean top-notch i would say largely i would concur with you that most of it is poor quality and i don't think that has as much to do with user expectation as with the developer is simply not putting a lot of their care and attention into it because they're not receiving money as a result um you know that to me that strike that strikes of the axiom if it's worth doing at all it's worth doing right if you don't want to do it right then just cease development and don't do it and you do see that a lot you see a lot of abandonware in the freaking open source space because the development developer moved on to something else perhaps got a better full-time paying job stopped using this doing the free and open source project as a hobby i think the developers need to stop looking at any of this as a hobby and start looking at it as a life-oriented purpose-driven project that is there for human improvement uh really i think if people don't look at almost anything that they want to do in life with those type of motives and only focus on the monetary motive we're we're not going to help improve the human condition to have a better future here personally that's my takeaway right yeah no i hear you at my age i'm 52 i've definitely matured and changed and i want to do quality quality good work the great work quality work programming whatever i do no i'm not i'm not money driven so much anymore right well that's good it takes maturity you got to have money to live obviously in our world today as it stands right now i don't fault people for you know obviously you know wanting to make an income so that they could uh uh take care of and uh you know maintain quality of life no problem with that it's just when it becomes the only drive or motivation for a project that potentially has avenues that could help humanity and advance humanity i think we have to try to shift that paradigm over and say you know even if there is no money in this i'm going to commit to the project and it's going to be part of what i do i'll make the time to do it and i'll not only make the time to do it i'll make the time to do it right so hopefully we see developers develop that type of a mindset like an open source if you give out your open source code then people are going to see it now developers when you read the code you can see their logic you can read like a book their way of thinking and if they put out poor crap the open source court it's an embarrassment why would they do that it's just embarrassing you're seeing my mind when you read my code true true especially if it's well commented well documented yeah you're absolutely correct well um it should be quite quality good stuff absolutely well i think you brought up some really great points uh so i want to thank you for the call uh dennis because you know uh really uh a lot of good insight there thank you for for your commentary on the state of software today you betcha i hope to hear from you soon got it dennis thank you bye excellent all right who else could we go to here let's go to daniel daniel you are live on what on earth is happening welcome hear me yes i can hey good to talk to you again mark so i guess we're talking about software development and the satanic mindset of people huh yeah um you know what what do you see as uh some of the most important developments in the software world or just a state of how software works its functionality its stability its quality you know uh talk about you know what you see in that field you could talk about if you want the platforms that you use and uh how you see development going uh in those regards sure well for me the thing is is that if you're gonna create something as a tool and you're giving it away for free to the greater group of people you know that says so much about where your heart and mind are at you know like for me my book that i'm writing is it's not gonna be for sale it's just gonna be for donation exactly how you're you do your things with gifts and i think that's that's the greatest gift that you can give somebody is put all your love and your skill into something that can really empower others and say hey this is what i got what you know do you want to take use of this who wants to help me do it and unfortunately lots of people as you said the other day are like they just want to make a dollar you know no matter what and so they sell shitty software they just want to they want to get in get out and everybody else and so but then again i do see a lot of people that do sacrifice the money motive for the better betterment of the human race and these people are examples they're prime examples of what we should strive to and for every day of our lives and um like i use a lot of uh open source software like i don't use word um i use uh libreoffice i try to use as many open source suite of open source office apps without a doubt it works very well yeah and and you can save so much money you know because word isn't cheap like you get you know you buy the whole suite or whatever it's 200 for the year and then they get you with all these things and then you're locked into their stuff and also it's like it's just it's just a it's a mindset i'm not gonna go with the the the big box store the easy come easy go i'm gonna figure out how this stuff works i'm gonna take a chance it's like for instance i don't use amazon prime for any reason right and so i use all these other websites like you were saying the other day we need to get used to just going to people's other websites instead of face facebook or google you know because they they censor 97 of the internet people 97 of the internet cannot be found using google or facebook that means that only the three percent that they've chosen you will see even though and this goes against them with google are terrible anymore and you could look up solutions to tech problems and you used to find forums very easily and now it's it's very difficult their their search quality has gone down so badly that even finding solutions for problems takes longer than it used to and it's so quick to figure it out you just open duckduckgo and you open google and then you say something simple like censorship google will say censorship is necessary because you know and then duckduckgo will it'll just give you what censorship is or what's going on with censorship and it very clearly shows you immediately this platform is leading you into what ways of thinking that it wants you to do and the the uh um open source is the same way the vast majority of open source material doesn't lead you anywhere except for this is a tool we gave it away for free you know it doesn't do what the other stuff does but it's not going to sell you ads it's not going to harvest your information and sell it to the the three letter agencies so that they can figure you out and dissect your your very being and then you know because this is all pre-crime pre-thought this is minority report level where the the more we invest in the architecture of the pre-planned pre-thought out internet where we don't have any free will and we don't know how to use these tools it's like you feed a man for a day you fed him for a day you teach a man to you know fish and then you fed him for the rest of your life open source software is exactly the same way when you use open source you're taking your own life into your own hands with the internet with these different tools and you're gonna say all right i don't know everything right but i i know that it's better for me to support these people who are giving away stuff for free or at least for much cheaper not they're not after the big bucks they want to continue doing the things that they're doing but they're not money motive uh driving add an addendum to that real quick um when it comes to open source development i love it and i want to be a champion of it like i i would love it to be um the major ways that people get software in the modern day and uh i love the model of it i think that that is definitely how software should be from jump street however having said that uh i agree with the last caller that much of it is subpar quality and my take on how i personally use software is yes i love the open source community and want it to improve i want to see it succeed which is why i'm being honest and harsh when it comes to uh the state of software especially open source software i think this would most certainly apply to uh in a big way but here's my personal pragmatic everyday utilitarian take when it comes to how i use software on my own computer systems i have to work with what's going to make my job go the smoothest the most efficient the easiest not frustrate me and get the word out to people and my take on this is if i can use an open source tool to do that i will but the open source tool would have to be of the highest quality and the most uh high efficiency to allow me to do what i do if i could can find a proprietary tool to do that job at a much higher and more efficient level that eliminates frustration for me in in my daily activities i will use the proprietary tool immediately over over the open source tool so functionality is really all i'm i'm primarily concerned about i will use something that would intrude upon my privacy as long as it does the job better so this is what i'm saying is the open source community has to understand we all want those things that you just referred to and very rightly so that people should strive to disconnect from the system not have things spy on you store your your data and sell your data et cetera things like that however i am going to take a little bit more of a pragmatic approach to say if if you're not a content creator you could deal with all of those other quirks frustrations inefficiencies right that then that's understood you might sacrifice having to go through that for not having your data harvested having your privacy respected etc when it comes to what i do as a content creator i have to have highest efficiency quality lack of frustration lack of technical problems or that is all i will be it's already now largely what i'm doing all day is putting out fires putting out technical support problem fires technical problem fires okay i needed to work flawlessly i needed to work efficiently so i could just do the work that i need to do and not fight with software all day for that purpose for as a result of that i will choose the proprietary software that does the job the best over the open source software that does isn't even as intrusive but doesn't do the job well so give me your take on that because i think that's what the open source community has to do they have to focus more on true improvements to the efficiency of their products and making them better when it comes to integrating them with the operating system that they're releasing them on a lot again a lot of open source projects they want to cut corners they don't want to write a truly native application they a lot of what open source developers do and i i know i may be insulting a lot of developers here by what i'm about to say but i know that they do it i i've spoken with many of them i've seen their code and i know what they're doing they're providing poorly written ports where they'll write against one os and then they'll do it a crappy port to another os i'm not i don't know if you're familiar with the concept of porting but it's taking native code from one platform and sort of like almost like just shunting it or interpreting it onto another platform instead of actually writing the necessary native code to make it work more of an as more of a native application on a separate platform and that's because they they want to write once and then port code instead of writing two or three times if they're going to release mac linux windows etc and i see this happening across the whole open source community when they really have to take their time to learn native application development on each platform take the core functionality then integrate ui elements it through whatever ide apis they're using etc and just accept that's more work is it more work to do it that way yes it is but you can actually do it right that way you could have feature parody that way regardless of how you started writing it's just more work it's more crafting it's more dedicating of time to your art and i just don't see the open source community doing that well most of it some do again i want to emphasize and stress some developers do it well but it's too few it's far too few and that's why most people are going to stick with proprietary software on windows and mac unfortunately and even that's downhill even that's uh i see especially on windows less and less good apps being developed on windows and tons of crappy apps being put in the windows app store the microsoft store same thing with uh mac tons of crappy apps on the on the mac app store because they think oh it'll be visible we'll it'll be a get rich quick thing and once we get the money we got the money and run and i think the app stores have badly badly badly hurt good proprietary saw and open source software development uh natively on these platforms and um it has actually limited the quality of the the choices when it comes to really well-written software as far as i'm concerned i very very rarely see myself going to the app store and saying that's a great piece of software i have to buy it i i it's such a rarity that uh you know i might download a couple of free tools on those platforms and that's about it um you know so give me your take on what i said there regarding usability of open source software versus proprietary software using it in your daily workflow uh i'd like to hear your take on that as a developer well first of all um it's it's by design what you were saying about um the the app store not being a good choice and them over everybody they know exactly they're taking stuff off the top they're preventing people from really being able to or wanting to develop their own materials and and and then apple has full and total control over who gets to sell their stuff to market and so this is the big tech platforms and everything and that's what they do is that they make sure that they have total control over things from start to finish and the little guys are screwed over and then they have to do their own thing what i'd like to say about your question is that we basically have to be like the crew of the nebuchadnezzar in the matrix we we hack into the main software and like the matrix like you know facebook instagram tick tock we hack into them we get the people willing and able to do the work the great work in the real world from there and then we port them back into uh the open source software and we we give them the tools and the reason why is this better why is this a better choice for not only you but the people who you're engaging with and that's the most important thing to really to get across to people it's like okay here's this other option why is this superior why is this why is this a better option and if you can't successfully relate that to somebody then maybe you should you know look elsewhere for how to spend your time um that's what i'm looking for people to understand these ideas and communicate them to the whole software building community i wouldn't consider myself a deeply entrenched member of that community you know i'm not really active in those circles but if we took these ideas to people who are active in those circles if they championed these types of ideas i think we could see a lot of improvements to the whole open source world even when it comes to operating systems uh like linux that are released as open source um you know projects so um i think that's a great idea what you just said that that's what we really do need to do is start communicating these ideas about how software really should be seen should function the the purpose that it should be written for to provide to humanity if we get these ideas through to this community maybe the free and open source community can become what it was intended to be and also it's like it's not like we're luddites or anything like that we're not trying to destroy technology or go backwards we're just saying look this technology is profound it has all these capabilities but it's being misused it's being harnessed towards the control of people in a negative way and if we can get these software developers to feel like they're doing something honorable something great something that it's like they're heroes all of a sudden you know and it's not like they're hackers or either there could be a lot of negative connotations about what they're doing and a lot of people look at them that way if oh you're not using words that's not even a that's not even a euphemism or something they they could be champions in this community without any doubt there's no doubt about what you just said there that's absolutely accurate continue and that and and if and if we can do that think about what a boon that would be you know like with just a little bit of recognition and um support people will spend untold amounts of time and energy to do those things we all we all know that when somebody says you know good job son good job you know daughter or whatever a a leader a figure of authority true authority ones that you know is with respect and mutual cooperation not oh i do you do what i tell you because i'm the authority not like that then people will do so much more and so much better and people really innately want to give and especially like people that are on their computers a lot they want to be recognized a lot you know because they don't interact with people in the real world so if we can if we can get them to say you know oh i worked on this new this new app and uh you know it it protects people and it's free and it's better than instagram and um and then like then they get a bunch of kudos because we have to make freedom cool we have to make truth love and freedom the coolest most badass thing that you can do it's the true counter culture it's the true um statement of resistance to the tyranny that we see all around us and i think it isn't really that hard to do because um it just takes the right momentum the momentum of the moment and saying we did this even though we didn't there was no guarantee we were gonna get paid there's no guarantee that we were gonna succeed but we did it because it was the right thing to do and you know it's like you can't fail when you're when you got that mindset how do you fail when you do something that you love that you know is the right thing i would say there's no way i would say that it is practically impossible not to have your life improve it is practically impossible not to have your prosperity go up because you're aligning your will with creation's will and that's when the universe comes to our assistance so daniel i think you brought up some fantastic points about that's exactly how the mindset of developers have to change and then what what are they the only thing that they're going to see they'll lose nothing in the prog in the process and the only thing that they're going to see is improvement in their lives and respect from their colleagues and other people who use their software or know about it in their entire community um and so it's a win-win it's it's a it's a no-lose situation it's a win-win situation for everyone involved and all that takes is a change of mindset that's it absolutely because they you could tell these people are talented they have the ability they just have to go a little bit beyond themselves and get out of that ego based mindset that's all so daniel thank you phenomenal uh points that you brought up as well i really appreciate the call yeah thank you so much for having me again mark you take care you got it my friend great call so far all right okay let's go to glenn glenn you are live on what on earth is happening glenn is a developer he is a member of the one great work network this is glenn tram from one great work network and uh glenn is actually uh helping me with a uh open source project that he's uh developing and leading the team on so glenn what do you have for us today hi mark can you hear me yes i can hi um yeah i just wanted to add some i this is this is great stuff by the way i love to hear from other developers as well what are their thoughts about the open source community um i myself i never really participated in open source before i was more with proprietary software i was more busy with proprietary software i'm going to give you some some thoughts about that um the idea is that when i i started very young programming is most of us like programs start a very young age and you know you start you know you start a little bit with um uh you know play around with software and you know see how things works and et cetera so that's that's kind of like the way i started as well but there is one thing that i wanted to add into into this whole discussion as well is that i think the one of the problem is purpose i mean most of people in general don't have a clue what their purpose is i think that is something that we need to ask ourselves as well because i i think and this is my take on this this is my personal view um yeah we have a general purpose of freedom but i i believe as well that everybody has also a personal thing they love to do and and that sometimes as well is missing people don't know precisely what what they want to do and how they and and let alone how they're going to contribute to to um to the world in general so it's a lack of initial direction in their in their lives in their in their mindset as to what they actually want yes no they're not purpose-oriented precisely right yeah so that that was one of my first like um stumbling block that i encounter in my personal experience so and and i don't know who it was i think it was dennis that that also you know talk about this he said that you know if you look around in the open source community you won't see good code so most of the time if you want to be part of a open source community at least what you get from what you want to get from it is to learn how to program good code you know to do you know do your the program better than you are already doing so and then if you go around and looking for projects and you see crappy code you say i'm not going to learn anything here so you this is also one of the things that you know so most of the time when i get when i get uh into you know involved in the projects it's all projects that they will pay me and then you will have one senior programmer who will really do very well his job and then you will learn from that so you will and most of the job and i'm going to be very very honest with you most which i don't even like uh most of the projects that they paid me to do before i didn't i didn't even you know you like but they pay very good money this is the state of mind of most of the programmers they pay you good money for it and so you'll take part in a project that you're not even interested in because you just want the paycheck precisely precisely this is this is basically the whole this is how it works and if i wanted to even work on something that i do like most of the time say ah we don't need people for that and we need you for this part of the project so go there and then you're going to stay yeah and then you're going to just do your job and this is uh this is something that you will encounter a lot in if and i know even developers don't even like to be to develop but they are just doing it because they pay on they pay them a lot of money so they make a career change and then this is where this open source is not really full of people that really you know put their whole mind and whole soul into it so this is like the yeah this is uh what's happening right now and and the the reason why i started to you know i said you know what i'm going to be part at least because i'm also creating content online so you know how it is so i i will have to make a way that i will have to have really more time to to develop more for the freedom community and i'm going to tell you why i was horrified when i was in holland that uh that you will have and this is this is all based on software you will have like i don't know if this is also true in in united states but you will have like a cop and a agent of um someone from the tax company you know they will they will they will stay together on the street on the high street and then they will pull you over just to tell you that you have you have tax you you have to pay taxes so you are due some taxes you didn't pay and they catch you on cameras so one way or that camera is connected to a database that that will search for your name and your information and then if they have like they know that you have uh an open and open invoice of something that you have to pay then they will be able to you know follow you and and and maybe even sometimes take you to jail if that's uh their purpose just because he didn't pay for um this is effectively implemented in um wow yes yeah so anything like that is actively implemented right right now as far as i know um you know this is some kind of a tracking mechanism that you're saying like that the equivalent of the irs has in um i'm sure the ability exists here obviously if it exists there but i don't think that practice is underway here but that's actively going on in in netherlands wow yeah yeah so that's just for your audience as well to understand that this is the graph this is the problem that we we're this is how low we have become in our way of you know freedom i mean it's crazy mark this is this is the reason why i say okay even though i have a lot to do in terms of uh you know creating content as well freedom content for for others i will have to get involved in in in in this part because um i was really thinking about how can we create you know tell people um how to find that purpose maybe is that something that we will have to look into as well so you know you help people find their own purpose in life i i the only thing that i come up um so far is you know uh just think about the thing that you love to do the most that's maybe your purpose i don't know so uh that is that's that's for me i think that is the crucial because if they don't see any attachment to that and if they don't see like okay if i built this thing it will help me you know be free or help me do this job more efficiently they will never be really involved in it with their hearts right and so they have to really understand why they are doing what they are doing maybe appeal to this left brain you know even you know because the yeah what you're talking about is the right brain big picture you got to get the big picture before you put the small uh details into place you know you got to build the foundation of the building before you build a little a little corner of the ninth floor you know so yeah i agree uh the the foundation is the is purpose uh and if the project isn't purpose driven uh it's not gonna succeed long term long term uh and that's what we're you know rooting for software developers to do create something that is purpose driven that is going to improve the quality of human beings and their lives and then put your all into that you know uh and make it a purpose-driven endeavor in your own life then like i said you're going to see things improve your you know by doing that and turning your will over to that larger will you're going to see improvements massive improvements in your own life when you do something like that and i think developers have to understand that that's how these karmic spiritual laws actually work in our world um let me ask you this glenn uh because you've worked in software development uh would you say that developers are largely atheistic uh non-spiritual a spiritual people or do they have some type of spirituality in their lives overall um and this is again my personal experience i never um encounter any software developer that's really believing anything there you have it there there you have it folks and uh you know that's not just atheism that becomes satanism because you combine that with selfishness and egotism and that's that's the path to satanism that's the path to a satanic mind right yes these people aren't actively involved in the workings of satanic groups i'm not making that claim never have what i am saying is that they are taking on the mindset that the satanist is putting out there into the world for people to latch onto and become a de facto satanist a satanist indeed a satanist in how you think and how you behave and that's the success of the sorcerers of our world that's the success of the dark occultists that are really running the world they have given us a lower level a lower level variant of their own mindset so there you heard it right from a developer who's worked on development teams uh a lot in the past and uh is still actively developing and uh you know glenn says there there is hardly any developer he ever met has any spiritual belief system has any spiritual uh spirituality in their lives they believe in nothing uh so they're yeah atheist satanic in their thought yes go ahead yeah so for me if the way i look at it mark and i think maybe you you can shed some light on on this as well the way i look at it is that first you will have to you know you will have to start people have to start understanding that that there is such thing as truth absolute truth and this is one of the first things that the guy would say that they would say no it doesn't exist um that truth is is relative and i have my truth and you have your truth kind of yes there's no truth it's all a matter of opinion and perception yeah most of them they walk around with that idea mark at least the ones that i have in my environment no i don't want to you know generalize because maybe there is there are obviously there are exceptions to the rule but uh in general um this is this is the way really they the way they are you know so this is the first step you know to tell them okay this is that and then try to to to see if there is purpose in their you know in their life because i i have in i have a lot of problem getting to the point that i say okay my life i have a mission and obviously you see me here i'm of course part of the of your group as well so this is at least my my you know the point that i have to come to to understand that this is my mission right so and now when you have your mission when you say okay i'm going to dedicate my life for this particular thing then we just focus you know you try to say okay you know what i'm going to it's going to be your life right to you know so i think that is like that is like the first step first you know i have to understand they have to be a weakened mark sorry sorry i mean there is no other way you know presentation uh discussion over the last couple weeks is about it's we have to reach these people's minds uh as much as we need to reach anybody else's minds these people are going to help us reach other people's minds if they do their job really well if they if they wake up and they wake up to a higher purpose and they do that job to a very high level it's going to make content creators jobs that much easier and then we'll be able to help wake up even more people glenn one of the things i want to say is i'm just very glad that you woke up my friend i'm glad that you found that purpose in your life and i'm glad that you all came on board with one great work network and are doing the great job that you're doing there so thank you so much and uh yeah thanks for your uh take and and your uh insights on the call here today i really appreciate it yeah no worry mark you're welcome great talk and more more can i say something more i i would i would love um for people to contact you uh developers that you know they really want to be part of something greater be part of you know building good software for the freedom community i would really want them to contact you so we can put them as well in the team so you know we we we talk about the organization of the teams and i i i this way i'm trying to you know you know get others as well involved in at least programming you know if you're not involved in spreading of the word itself at least um be involved in building the software that we need so we can spread um you know the the word of truth so uh once again mark thank you for everything man i i will be hearing from you i think uh in the coming weeks uh but we will stay in contact thank you for everything absolutely glenn thanks so much okay ladies and gentlemen glenn tram of what of one great work network great call all right let's see who else is here on the line with us let's go to let's go to d d you are you are live on what on earth is happening welcome to the show hello mark thank you for having me yeah no i'm i i'm kind of coming at this from the opposite point of view like i'm not a developer and never really got into that side of things but we're definitely uh interested in hearing uh you know your take on it as well so people do not have have to be a developer to call into the show you could just chime in and uh bring to the table what you feel should be discussed regarding this topic no problem yeah for me yeah i'm more of a obviously a user of the develop software and um for me i find it very hard to find like you say the open source uh or even free software that is usable um i'm on a very restrictive budget and yeah i mean i find it extremely difficult um so i thought i would come on and hopefully if you don't mind me mentioning a few of the programs i used um and that's fine if you wanna if you wanna actually like on the air ask my take on what is best software in class for a particular project or a particular function uh i would definitely give you my uh you know informed opinion if i have used software like that for sure no problem yeah yeah yeah i mean yeah for me it's more the editing software and stuff like i find because obviously i started off with using the standard uh windows editor on on windows 10 and you start off with that you find you're extremely restricted you want to try and find other stuff and i i eventually came across davinci resolve it's excellent um i i would say that um adobe premiere pro would also be another good option on windows obviously it's not free um but i think that's a very good video editor uh my personal favorite edit editor for myself i like final cut pro if i'm going to edit i generally edit using a mac um you know to do video editing and i use final cut pro uh my recently released documentary which i really should start promoting more again to get more people watching uh mark pacio and the science of natural law which is available for free online now uh but um that was edited using final cut pro some of the early development of that was uh you know editing work was done with davinci resolve but we moved over to final cut pro to complete that project so um i think davinci resolve is definitely a good video editor uh i think there's a little bit of a learning curve on it for sure but it does the job uh um you might want to look into um adobe premiere which would carry a subscription cost with it i'm not exactly sure what that cost is but it's probably like something like 15 or 20 dollars a month um you know because you don't own that outright you just pay monthly for a subscription might even be less than that i'm not really sure but uh premiere pro on windows is a good option and if you did want to um uh edit on a mac os platform then i would say that you probably one of your best bets for efficient video editing is a final cut pro 10. those are my takes on uh on modern video non-linear editing systems yeah yeah no that that's awesome i'm glad i found a winner then with davinci resolve because the re i mean there is a paid for version of davinci resolve but i've is probably going to be as high-end and efficient and stable of an editor as you're going to get on the windows platform in my opinion yeah and there's i mean there's plenty of um tutorials and stuff on youtube as well i mean so so there are like lots of um things you can do you don't even realize you can do see this this is the thing i've found with with development software and stuff that i actually use is i don't even know i underestimate what it can do if you get by i don't necessarily have a base understanding to understand what the technology is even capable of totally understand and i i tell people this in the how to become the true media seminar i am not an expert on every aspect of even all the software that i use i use it to do tasks that i require to be done on a daily basis and i may not even look into 75 of the functionality if i only need the 25 of the functionality to do what i do so software i i look at complex software as an entire ecosystem or a world unto itself where you could spend your whole life practically learning all the ins and outs and special features of the software but for 99 of people they may never even use those aspects of the software uh so i agree with you um i generally am a generalist when it comes to software usage and i don't necessarily uh i'm not necessarily a total high level expert on every feature set of every software uh program that i that i own and use so um i think that's how most people use software quite frankly i know that's certainly how i use it yeah yeah no it's i'd imagine that's the case but and that's another problem that unfortunately i think developers have got a problem with unfortunately and that's their audience um most people are movie educated as i call it uh they've watched iron man and they think oh that it's that easy to to to use a program yeah you can just put an arm in here and move it here and move it in don't realize the actual work it does take to learn and even how to use let alone how to write those functions that's why it is a tall task and it's it is uh an amazing skill set that developers have to even do half of the things that they do it's just they have to just move it a little bit more forward to say let's build a great ui let's build a great experience behind that software so that it's intuitive so that people can learn it easily that they want to use it and then it provides a functionality to help improve the human condition and a higher purpose and i think if software developers move into that mindset like i said i think the awakening of humanity will take off to a much more accelerated pace uh than it has gone so far i think people don't understand the connection there between the software and how much we could potentially awaken people if it gets a lot better you know it's it's just like any other technology as it as it escalates and as it accelerates uh more change is possible through it and this is one of the biggest things that the positive change is is possible to happen through uh if people understand how powerful it is how how deeply integrated and critical its role is with the the one great work of ending human slavery i mean if that's understood especially by the software world who who knows what can be done or how the pace of human awakening can progress as a result exactly exactly and then it's it is also like i said about the users staying on top of the technology that is available as well these new ways of coming in like all the old techniques coming out at the moment all your different ways of getting to people and um i get into that and how to become the true media seminar i tell people where do you go to look for software how do you track new developments and solve we talk about all of that stuff in uh in the seminar as well so i'm actually glad you brought that up go ahead and continue yeah no no that's actually i was gonna even with the more mainstream things like like with youtube and stuff i mean they do bring out new resources and no no no i know they're not great but they can be good for broadening your reach basically like shorts and stuff i mean yeah you can't get a lot of information into a short but you can get somebody's attention that could send them to your content that has greater information and and things like that and and i say not everyone can be like if you know what i mean we can't always be as succinct and and well spoken and so sometimes it can be fun maybe to play up with with voice mods and have a bit of fun as well with things so there are there are options out there as well to to to really broaden up because i know a lot of people like to do live live shows panel shows and stuff like that so you can really liven things up and you can get information across stay tuned we're going to bring on a content creator soon that does just what you're talking about and um i think you'll be very interested when we on board this person uh to check out the material because um uh they do do creative things like what you were just referring to excellent yeah it's going to be good to see more and more people embrace embrace this technology like i won't take up any more time i'll let you get somebody else on to talk but no thanks ever so much for having me on and i hope get a chance to speak to again in the future when i've got something to say about a topic you're talking about absolutely dee thank you great points that you brought up i appreciate the call excellent thank you all right let's see who else is holding ah let's see let's go to let's go to nikolai nikolai you are live on what on earth is happening welcome to the show nikolai is actually a developer who is working with glenn tram and uh is uh going to be helping with the development of uh some of the software projects uh that uh glenn is working on and i am helping to uh consult uh for so nikolai uh thank you for calling in and uh what do you have for us yeah thanks for letting me on uh and i want to shout out glenn uh thanks for having the initiative to uh you know organize a group so yeah i was thinking of something like literally as i was listening to the show and you brought up a lot of dynamics as to why the open source software isn't that good generally yes and i think a big part of it is the team isn't there like apple doesn't just have developers you know they have like ux engineers they have like a huge team of people a huge team of people doing it's a project project organization so important absolutely and i think that's the key well it could be like could be the key actually you know what i mean because you don't see open source people kind of like working in these big teams where they get over their egos because most people will get over their egos when it comes to money right but like there's not this like higher vision that leads people that people realize they have to get over their egos for right and that's one thing and another thing is like i don't even know that that many ux or ui people are into developing open source stuff so it ends up just being the people like in their you know uh basements writing code and then the software doesn't have that much exposure yep they don't have like the feedback they don't even necessarily have the social skills to absolutely get the feedback so i think that could be i think it's a huge part of the problem with the open source community i think you've got your finger right on the pulse of it of the nature of the problem that this is uh one of the things that uh the the false community has to look at and uh has to realize there's there's more to development than just writing some core functionality or small pieces of code that could be inserted into other projects like libraries or little enhancements for a large project you need good organization and project planning you need people who are specifically there to look at the ui and ux of the the the app that you're building um and again like you said you need you need teamwork among the members of the development team and that in largely involves getting the ego out of the way and saying we're all here for the same purpose and we're all here to contribute what we can contribute and i think you know because these things are not being done in the open source community that is why you're seeing a lot of projects come out with poor quality and then the project language languishes and is eventually abandoned i think you're totally on point continue right right and and another thing that came to mind as well is it could be that a lot of the people developing the software are doing it as kind of like a portfolio thing and then once they get the job they want they just kind of advance it could be it could be a you know it could be a bunch of different stuff but what we want to do is find a solution for it right and like we're working on it uh slowly but surely um glenn marco and i make up the developer team but if more people want to join that would be great um yeah you know uh and there was one thing i wanted to oh yeah i've actually took a little course on it was like some free course i just wanted to you know dip my feet in the waters a little bit to learn a little bit ux myself so i think that i was kind of motivated by what you were saying i'm very curious to hear about this and the result like what uh you know how was the experience in that course and like what did you take away from it because i think if more developers did this that they would hone their development skills again this may not help as much with core functionality but when it comes the overall experience that the user is going to be provided with when when the the developer writes the user interface for the app i think that's going to go light years to take the project light years beyond where it would have been without that type of education so what was your overall result with uh taking a course like that i mean it was literally i it was like a six hour thing i finn i took yesterday and i finished it all it's this free course i just found that was like kind of uh quality and you don't want to get more serious into it um but i do think you know it's all psychology really and it's like you have to like step outside of yourself and realize it's not like i can write some code but i don't know like if i have no feedback then how will i know whether the other person will like it because they're not really going to care about the fact that i wrote the code it's like doesn't understand even how it's structured or how efficiently it's structured all they're going to see is what's the result on my screen when i hit this button when i try to do this function you know when i import this uh piece of data and then i try to do a transform upon that data in whatever way that's going to help me get my work done that's all they're going to see they're going to see the result they don't really care about what goes on on the hood with the code you could be an inefficient coder you could be a very efficient coder uh the user interface and and the user experience is going to be largely disconnected from that level of efficiency with the code now obviously if it becomes so inefficient it just doesn't work then there's a problem but you could have even tightly efficient core code and you did it did your job everything perfectly in that regard but if you don't have a good ui ux the user's not going to like say wow they wrote that engine so efficiently it's perfect in its job if i can't even get to the point where i can even use that function well because the ui gets in my way or is unintuitive and i don't even understand how that how that function works or how to get to it you know so uh so what was your takeaway from the course it's a lot of psychology and i agree that's that's what it is it's how do you make the person feel comfortable using the software how do you make it so that it's intuitively organized uh you know uh did it get into a lot of that stuff well i think you know uh they had this like um it was like a ufx development cycle and there was first you do like research and analysis where you find uh the you you try to understand what the problem is and you try to that's the first step then you look for like the alternative designs i think like that's kind of like you try to find what currently solves that problem and then how you can make it better then you do prototyping and then you do evaluation after that um i think those are the steps but the main idea is like they or there's a bunch of main ideas but i think one of one of the things that i took out from it is that you know a lot of these big companies they put a lot of resources into it like into researching you know who their users are they do surveys they do interviews they do what they call focus groups uh they do i forget there was one more thing that's that's popular but um we're gonna have to figure out a way how to have that you know uh feedback mechanism where we can also so if we want to be serious about this then we also need to battle test our our apps and we need we need to have that as well and our designs and and everything you know there's there's fairly efficient ways of doing that as well even with a lot of the open source uh community software that already exists i mean you know there's forum software that's already open source that could be pretty easily installed on web servers and opened up to the public and have them make accounts and uh contribute ideas just to you know take surveys and things like that um so i think uh we could already leverage existing pro projects for that obviously proprietary software companies do it in a little bit more of a focused way as you said but there are already ways of beginning doing things like that with existing free and open source software projects i would say right and we need people that are kind of into the idea and wanna you know have the heart behind it and help to analyze that data as well and make sense right you know so that you could bring those ideas to the development team and say hey this is what people are looking for these are the improvements it's all part of listening to what people are uh struggling with that there is a uh problem out there that you could provide a solution to as a developer right right yeah i mean that's that's pretty much it those are the you know thoughts i had in my head well nikolai thank you absolutely i'm glad that you took a course like that i'm glad to see you taking that type of initiative and uh understanding how important those elements of development projects are i wish more developers would uh go down that path and and realize that so i think it's great that you're uh you know studying into that uh and um uh it's awesome that you're already putting that into practice i just i just wanna add one more thing i just remembered i felt like you'd appreciate this and maybe people listening uh so i took the the clap well i forget now my mind is blank in the class the how to become the true media yes and and uh you know obviously some of the stuff like the the coding i already know how to do so that for me wasn't you know anything new but uh i did take a lot of like things out of it uh some like i definitely look more at the software that i use now to try to figure out all the features that it has like i go through the settings i organized my uh you know my my laptop that i use you know the desktop is the files yeah the whole file system uh you know and then i also learned about those um i didn't i didn't get into it i love i love hearing this i'm fighting back a smile because this is what the class is largely about i i love hearing that people take those skill sets that will not just even apply to software and technology it'll apply to life skills as well uh have you become more organized and efficient as a result of all of that yeah i would say so yeah i mean i like i i just gave you two things and i could probably list more you know if i thought about it a little bit more but yeah yeah um definitely definitely well i'm glad you took the course and took that away from it uh like i said it get goes even a little bit beyond technology technology is obviously the core of it but uh there are uh organizational lessons there are efficiency lessons there's overarching life lessons taught in this seminar as well so uh nikolai as a an alumni of how to become the true media i want to thank you for uh taking the course in the past and uh that you're part of uh the extended one great work network as a developer um of course you'll be um you know able to take these courses whenever they come up because we uh we basically um scholarship any people who are helping with uh one great work network uh and what on earth is happening into the uh into the seminar so that'll be yeah and and to you and i'm getting my content out too i have this article out but uh you know i'm working on that slowly but surely as well so i i intend on being a content creator that's awesome awesome and then when you're ready sounds good man i appreciate you and what you do man fantastic great call thank you nikolai i appreciate what you're doing to help with the one great work as well good all right uh i accidentally i was trying to mute you nikolai and i accidentally hit the wrong menu item so i apologize for that let me i'll undo that after the show so um if you want to try to just reconnect i'm sorry but i know i was uh there there we go no problem sorry about that i was meaning to just server mute you and i think i might have disconnected you accidentally i apologize if that's what happened so let's see who else do we have holding on the line here let's uh go to uh let's go to let's go to skip skip you are live on what on earth is happening welcome to the show you know i'm actually uh trying to get my headphones charged up and ready and uh i might need a few minutes maybe okay if it causes a problem i'll let you know but um you're all right for now if you want to just go ahead i don't i don't hear anything or feedback so let's let's give it a shot if it doesn't work out uh then you could get those ready but um you know i think it's fine for now so awesome what do you have for i really appreciate the series um i watched i believe um the most previous episode and you were discussing uh something similar in the satanic mindset and i have met so many nihilists in this industry i've been doing this for eight years in the last two years i just quit now when you say doing this you are a software developer i would call myself a web developer because i learned like uh it's so interesting because you uh you speak about multimedia concerns and like getting ourselves prepared to be like proper communicators in this in this like high technological world and how we do it and how we're going to improve it right and uh that's like what i studied in community college i didn't go to like a four-year or anything and i'm self-taught so most of my experience has been taking a lot of criticism and realizing that i'm not as good as i think i am i didn't enter the industry immediately i took like three years of time just like is trying to find as many solutions to um how to basically end up in this industry because i thought it was fun you know it's like this enjoyable process in which if you're willing to take the criticism realize that your work from a month ago or two months ago is not as good a year ago it's definitely not as good and you know there's a lot of improvements and there's always more improvements to make of course yeah so it's been a it's been a wild ride but the further i've gone in my career the more i realize exactly what i think most of your callers are referencing especially your software developer callers is that we're missing this like lack of purpose um we're definitely just like it seems to be like these shill robots kind of i don't know how to describe it but they basically just take orders and they don't think twice about it and they just see somebody breathing down their neck or the money right and then all of a sudden the code just doesn't work and it's very humiliating to go to interviews and realize that the people on the other side know that their solution is not very good it could be very complex could be a lot of reasons for that you know we can go on for a long time but basically sitting in that hot seat not realizing what they've done has been the scariest some of the scariest things in my life because i don't know what i'm getting myself into so sometimes and you know better you know as a developer you know what the principles are you know what could be what they're preferably right now yeah i like i like the call like i'm tearing my ass up all the time i like a call like this because you're bringing up the dark aspects of this and where people fail and and realizing it doesn't have to be like that it's only like that because they're not shifting that mindset and they're staying in that depressed nihilistic um you know what i call satanic mindset and it only takes a change in thinking it only takes a change in perception to overcome something like that and make a decision that you're going to go out strike out on your own and do something purpose driven even if you take a hit in the shortcome in in the short term i should say because this is what holds people in that fear-based mentality that i'm not going to change i'm just going to keep rolling with what's happening now even if it's kind of insulting to me it's insulting to me at a soul level it's insulting to my overall abilities my potential you know my actual talent uh capabilities and developers don't have to stay there i feel like what you're saying is absolutely again uh the callers today have all had their thumb on the pulse here uh right on with what is really going on in the software development world and i'm sure if we extended this and did more calls from developers they're going to say the sa that they've seen the same thing from the inside world of this business of this whole industry um that it's simply about people sitting in that chair with talent and you know um you called them a shill you know uh which it's a harsh term but it's very accurate they're shilling themselves for the money that they get in return for projects that they don't have any interest in and they could be writing anything they could be writing things that are ultimately long-term harmful instead of helpful and transformative of the human condition for the better they could be writing things that are totally frivolous and have no bearing on anything and many game developers do that and i'm not saying destroy the whole world of gaming i know people have accused me of like that from last week and you know saying oh you know without games there's no people rely on that for entertainment and unwinding i get it i i sit down and throw on a video game from time to time very you know occasionally when i am stressed and i want to unwind you know and i'll do that a a few times during the year but it's like you know to to just make that your main goal in life is what i'm talking about i'm not saying never play a game i get it you know i go to the local pub they have an old school school arcade machine i'll ask for a dollar in quarters and go play a couple of games right i'm a normal human being i like to unwind and relax like anybody else does don't make as much time for that as i should but you know so we're talking about this within reason and balance here where it's the it's the adage in any true law of attraction based thinking it's about what you do most of the time it's a a person to maintain health doesn't can never have a piece of that decadent chocolate cake right yes you can do that but it's what you do most of the time that's going to make your body perform the way it's going to perform and your overall health and nutrition status be where it's at you know so i'll i'll eat some vegan ice cream that's uh you know obviously to too sweet or loaded with with sugar from time to time but you know it's like you can't do that all the time every day it's a treat occasionally it's it's the same thing when it comes to how developers will write things that are escapism or distraction right i get it that should be out there right it's not like it should not exist at all i'm saying that this is what developers largely are going to as a bait it's like the the carrot on the string in front of the donkey you know they're putting that right for this type of user you know because there's all these frivolous users who are going to download this stupid little app that's going to go viral and it's you know just going to be about uh you know the social networking uh viral nature of it and everybody's going to download it and you'll get rich these get rich schemes don't do anything to help improve development they don't do anything to help improve the human condition and if developers start to make that change in mindset that long term if you write for a purpose your long-term prosperity will come and all you have to do is make that leap of faith and then see you'll see that it's true it's it's not my opinion that's also an objectively true statement it will occur it will happen and i i can give examples of that you can see that with developers who have done this and have done uh things for the right purpose their businesses will thrive their loyal their customers will become loyal and they will want to contribute and support and they'll buy the new releases i see this in a lot of different software that's written well so um yeah just uh you know continue with your take on that and anything else that you have um yeah there's a it's it's an interesting position to be in because like i said i i you know i came into it um pretty actually late in my life i didn't explain like exactly what age i'm in but i'm i was 27 when i decided to take this direction and it's it's been nearly 10 years so i'm 38 and like all i can tell you is like i don't want to be in any position where the fun is sucked out of it necessarily because i know this is some one of my passions in life there are a few of them you know and i never really wanted anybody else to be middle-managed or finding myself in this position i always wanted to find a way to creatively contribute to the world and say i positively added something this dynamic whatever it may be there's actually of use the only thing that i can do from like a web development standpoint is use some of the practices that i'm used to which is like just trying to do things as securely as possible and then offer people the ability to cultivate certain things and get organized and do specific tasks and stuff like that these are like content management systems this is what nice i'm like used to doing like e-commerce huge part of what i do uh for what on earth is happening in one great work network dealing with them all day this is so important this is what it is because no one feels confident enough to speak the truth we're on youtube right so that's like frightening like i can't really speak my mind and i'm not trolling or anything and i'm not trying to make a bunch of jokes but either way our ability to remain like you've been saying like this natural order how things should be um we are being contained in the system and it never had to be that way absolutely no i i i i'm in full agreement with walkers yeah yeah i'm walking i'm trying to walk it back by contributing to something else so um i think it was nicolai sent me a friend request so i hope to speak with you guys in the future explain some of my stories i have some really weird stories i could tell you guys and like i just i don't think we have to play that but we're going to try to build up the one great work network development team for uh like desktop class software but we're also always looking for uh developers that are excellent with content management systems and web-based development so uh definitely um you know uh do a uh like a friend request to me and let me know that we spoke about this and you know maybe we could even bring you into the development team for one great work network if it's something that you would want to contribute with and have the time to contribute yeah i'm working my way towards it i don't even have dedicated internet so i've been listening to you talk and you're like you have to have dedicated uh bandwidth i'm like i'm not qualified i'm not there yet i'm in a very like remote location right now but soon thank you for your time absolutely great call thank you skip all right sorry about that folks hold on i wasn't ready here we go all right great call there from skip let's go to anderson anderson you are live on what on earth is happening welcome to the show hello yes can you hear me yes i can hey mark it's a great privilege to be able to talk to you oh thank you i i really wish people would realize how important what you are doing is thank you i appreciate that answer so and this is a very personal topic for me okay i'm uh i'm a developer and i have very deep roots on open source software okay it comes it comes from family for me my my father was many years ago the creator of sarg it's a report analysis tool for linux okay and uh lots of things have been said and i might be able to add some more sure can i can i tackle can i talk a little about my shadow work you sure absolutely your own personal shadow work when it comes to uh relate relation to this topic yeah absolutely yeah i i was one of those very dense left-brained developers who talk about worldview poison thinking that money would bring me freedom you know here here in brazil you can find the image of the statue of liberty in our money like isn't this brainwashing as if money would actually bring freedom and i also met a lot of programmers in my life maybe 70 percent of them didn't actually enjoy programming they they couldn't wait to retire 70 you say i did not enjoy 70 you said did not enjoy the field at all wow yes yes 7 they couldn't wait to retire from from this job wow so most of them don't don't actually enjoy doing it maybe another reason for not having a lot of good open source stuff around there there were like there are two steps that that actually changed my my very deep left brain the world view okay and i don't know if i can talk about psychedelics and in sure yeah the audience ahead so you know it always starts with uh a magic mushroom session ahead it it destroyed completely my mind and even my life actually everything changes from from this day you know all those lies in my mind came to face me like i i finally realized that i can't take my money to the grave so it's a funny thing to say but most people think they can they can actually take their money to to their graves it's a such a stupid stupid stupid thing and this uh this psychedelic experience that you had made you see this and change your world view change your paradigm yes and uh also the next step and i think it's the most important for me it was an east because i'm still doing it it's a psychoanalysis this clinic of psychonauts okay with uh with a good professional that can help you see how the nonsense in your mind so that you can try to change it i did it and i am constantly changing it so i i really recommend say um an intelligent if you're still deep in the left brain right mind to wake you up and then work yourself to to heal all this madness in our minds it really is a mental poison uh it's a uh it's a it's a soul sickness it's a mind virus a soul virus and that is how people really should look at that type of poison left brain worldview as something that is injected into our society as a virus to hold people under control it's not it's not helping us it's not helping us achieve what we say that we want uh as individuals or as a society and uh it um you know what if we see through those lies and we see through that facade of that type of a worldview and paradigm uh as anthogenic compounds can help us to do um and then if we work upon ourselves with uh the type of shadow work which again there's endless techniques uh but it's a matter of uh being honest with yourself first and foremost and then uh asking yourself questions about what you really want in life asking yourself questions about what the things that you have done uh if they have actually helped to achieve those things or if they've acted as detriments changing that world view in that paradigm and now as as you courageously did in your life through those mechanisms were able to make that change and um you know how did your life unfold after making those changes compared to how it did before yes i'm actually i became a better developer after doing all this i could i could uh solve things way way better than before like my i had more creativity like you know bring new stuff to fix something in a different way that's awesome that's really great no most things you are saying are absolutely true but i i'd like us to defend a little the software developers about this ui thingy if you don't mind sure that's what you're saying all of them are very very bad i'm saying that this is the general problem in that community but there are some very good developers out there who do understand these principles and and apply them and put them to a very good effect in the software community and uh help it move help move it forward and help content creators like myself and i would not be able to do the work that i do without developers like that so i just wanted to preface that but absolutely go right ahead oh yes it's um so let's say the car functionality would take 20 percent of the time to finish the software i'd have to say that the ui would take you around 80 percent you really think it's that much of a disparity really yes wow yes but it's no excuse of course it's absolutely no excuse but i can understand a little the point of view of uh of the of the developer especially the open source one quick question before you continue because i find this ver this type of feedback very good and very interesting would you say that that might be the reason that they look at the project like here's the core functionality i want to implement and they know how to do that in general if they've studied those functions well and and understand interactions with hardware etc okay let's say that that is well within their uh framework of their skill sets um would you say that they're dismayed or made um despondent by how much work the ui and ux is going to take to refine and really do well and that's why they just they just don't want to do that like is it i don't just want to come out and say it's total laziness but it's like they're s they're they're they kind of have a mindset like to them the most important thing is the core functions and so they look at like oh this is window dressing this is this is just uh details on the painting i painted the main part even though that's maybe 20 of the work that i have to do but i have to do all this all this other detail work do you think that makes them not want to do it makes them uh look at it like oh this isn't worth doing uh what is your take about why they don't invest the time for what i consider to be arguably even as important or even more important than the core functions yes yes i i think that is that is true it's no excuse of course you can imagine the an open source developer like using one hour a day of of his free time to do something right for the good of human beings of course you the good of human beings is a way better purpose than money right now i understand this before i couldn't but this he wouldn't he wouldn't waste a lot of time for you do you why it's a sad thing i know sure but it's true in my point of view that that is the and obviously i would never ask somebody to say invest more time and then hurt your life as a result right but yes i think if we could make more of a support system to to help improve and carry that development work forward where it just doesn't get abandoned where there's teams it see it's got to be more open source i think has to evolve into more team efforts uh and when it when it does and people can work together without a lot of ego and and head butting on the overall purpose if they're on the same page when it comes to that team building and team efforts will help move the open source community forward and that's kind of what i want to see it develop more into as opposed to single developer little plug-in projects or little library projects we need to implement a similar model to what business and proprietary software communities have implemented but uh take the motivation of of purpose-driven software into that type of uh team model and i think it could uh really help improve the whole ecosystem i mean what do you think about that when it comes to open source development yes yes these actually started when people people started using git i don't know if you know you know yes github and most open source are actually there and people help a lot but it's not enough you know what i mean yes it's not enough and maybe some way of yeah in some time the the programs the developers should keep working would be a good way but i i don't really know how i think what about their work methods of don't donating to development teams in a way that um ensures that the project can be funded so it doesn't have to just be totally free and so far as the the software itself would remain gratis free but the development efforts would have resources behind them i think maybe a donation to projects like this have to be better organized would you think that would help some more yes yes but still there were the viewpoints needed to be fixed absolutely unless you unless your donation is like bigger there than what they can get working for a company for instance i agree with world view and uh getting your mind right out of that satanic de facto satanic mindset is going to be the first thing that has to happen in this community definitely yes yes they need to understand and try to find a good purpose in life like glenn said i think yes a real purpose that's right not not money not money money won't bring freedom it's a lie what what can bring freedom is what mark pastor is doing not not money anderson i appreciate that so much oh and and just to if you need some help [Music] anything just just call me okay um why don't you uh get in touch with me on discord and uh maybe we could uh bring you into the uh development effort that we have going on one great work network and we'll uh you know see what you could help contribute we uh probably are going to start a few projects there uh certainly one that we definitely could use help on with uh uh regarding ndi which is network device interface we're trying to make a plug-in for uh that video functionality uh and that's something that we could always use uh you know more development help on and we have other projects in the works as well down the line so um yeah contact me on discord privately and uh if you want we could uh perhaps uh on board some new developers into our development team meetings and uh talk about what we could uh eventually work on okay thank you for hearing me absolutely anderson great call great points that you made regarding shadow work when it comes to getting uh his own mind as a developer his former mindset uh healed that whole view healing that we all have to do you know so uh great call regarding uh exactly the psychology that i'm talking about on these last couple of episodes and i love to hear that some developers have already started doing that it may be in its uh early stages but the more uh people who even do this type of work start listening to a show like this and others who are talking about the great work and that that type of world view healing and and um shadow work that we need to do um the the faster that that mindset is going to be healed in that community and then they're going to go on to do bigger and better things so also great to hear ah let's go to andrew andrew you are live on what on earth is happening welcome to the show i've unmuted you from the server and there you go there we are first of all thank you so much mark for everything that you've done man i couldn't be more grateful for having you uh well i've been listening to the show ever since like episode 41 i think way back when so thank you it's been recent it's been recently that we've kind of stepped into i've been you inspired me to get into some content creation so andy brookshire and i do the grateful disobedient uh on the we're actually on the one great work network and we got our own website though uh the gratefuldisobedient.com so well listen if you want to be on board individually as well just get in touch with me on discord if you're already putting content out with uh andrew brookshire then just uh uh contact me and uh you know i could onboard you onto the network and uh you could have your own blog there as well if you want well i'd love to get it out there as many ways as possible so yeah i'm i'm planning on taking a course here in the future from you i'm learning my own skill set right now i'm just more about writing with the pen i instead of the coding i do the the pen is my instrument got it and uh i'm i'm it's i think i keep getting articles i i would guess correct well it's more like i have this i have this obsession with with one specific concept and that is that it don't don't wouldn't you agree that as mankind we as it should be a birthright for us to have a valid contract with our world like it it seems like if we were to have a contract with our world where we could all get around it and say this is a declaration of not of the natural rights of mankind i consider that natural law itself is that binding contract and when we break it we suffer when we align our behavior to that natural uh contract that's written in the human heart and mind and soul and in nature itself then we're going to prosper once we learn how to align our behavior to it so yes i would agree and i just if we were to put something down in on paper though and get everybody around a consensus about like something too similar to a declaration of natural law or objective morality and that and that way every member of mankind is able to then say oh yes this is our contract our valid contract with the world i think if we were to have something in like one page two page even like a three page document that would then everybody could all of the developers around the world it's an interesting i would be able to say i'd be interested in seeing if someone could get the concepts of natural law to such a concise uh condensed to such a a concise degree that it could be expressed like that i'm not saying it's impossible you know i obviously uh gave to the best of my ability what i consider were the main principles obviously you can go into much finer detail in a nine hour seminar um and then condensed that work down into a less than one and a half hour about one hour and eight minute documentary film um i thought that that was considerable uh condensing of of the conceptual ideas uh to see if it could be done through the written language uh to get it down to a few pages would be an interesting project uh not saying it couldn't be done but uh you know to get the very general ideas out the overarching generalities of what natural law is i think it could be done the core axiomatic principles behind all of the complexity that can build on top of as long as they stay in consistency with the with the the uh the basic function of the principle as the so to be the basis for everything items yes absolutely yeah and that's the generative thing that i feel it would be so powerful for this entire movement if we could just get something that we can all stand on and say yes as mankind this is our birthright to have this level of clarity and consensus with our world i think it's an interesting idea and if that is your passion then absolutely make that uh the the basis of of your content creation without a doubt and that's what i've that's what i've done i've i got the algorithm down to what i think to be could be about four pages right and it's pretty simple i'd love it all the listeners to tear it apart it's available for download on the website tell me where it's wrong tell me where we can add to it but i think this is your shared website with andrew brookshire yeah the gratefuldisobedient.com uh grateful disobedience.com i like it i like that name obedient ient the grateful disobedient okay all right awesome and and we uh we have like thousands to the the great reset this is the grateful wait say it again the grateful the grateful disobedient dot com okay yeah i'm firmly convinced that gratitude is the fundamental essence and nature of consciousness itself now i i totally agree and a lot of people would think oh you know you're complaining all the time mark about how bad things are yes that's true but i also do have the um the attitude of gratitude when it comes to what i have learned and the extent that i have awakened myself and helped to awaken others i am very grateful regarding uh what the information that the universe provided unto me that was able to re-inform my entire paradigm and world view so i approach uh you know creation uh in general and life in general with that type of gratitude not to say that i still don't want different things to change but when it comes to my own mindset and understanding of things i'm always grateful that i'm in that position of being informed and understanding and that level of understanding whereas i could be one of the many many billions of of unfortunates who don't have a clue and uh you know i would never want to be in that position so i'm always grateful that uh the things that were revealed unto me were revealed and i came to that level of knowledge and understanding absolutely i love it i do the best i can to every time i think i as in me or my in that moment experience appreciation gratitude and thankfulness just for the act of breathing and being able to do this work once we really gain that knowledge of who and what we are as as gratitude itself in appreciation for all of existence then we can really see our power to stand on the shoulders of the ancestors in order to actually create and pave the way and create for seven generations from now i base my entire life on the seventh generation's principle for to do it in every possible way and growing i'm on i'm on social media getting the word out there about the podcast the whole bunch i'm on like my 15th account because they banned the out of me for everything that i post but it's it's really important that this these memes still keep coming out there and i'm going to keep crushing it out there as much as possible and my goal is to get it so that everybody has their own so we start off with the vet with a basic uh declaration of objective morality and then everybody can build their own complexity based on various cultural conditions around the world wherever it is people are but it's all within the confines of objective morality and if we had a world like that that would be like i see it when we have a world it's an excellent personal project and goal and uh you know i definitely wish you success in in doing that and providing something like that for people to read and get on board with and uh like i said let's uh let's bring you on to one great work network as an individual content creator for for sure so you can highlight some of that work i'd love to and it's it's an honor and a privilege to be on the episode thank you so much for calling on me here mike or mark it's one of my yeah i listen to a lot of your episodes and i think you're right on point with a lot of things and man i there's very few things that i can poke holes in anything so we'll i look forward to continuing the conversation and man it's an honor privilege andrew thank you great call thank you for the call my friend thank you all right so andrew is already working with another one great work content creator in their own podcast that they share and so we'll probably be bringing andrew on to one great work network as an individual as well we're going to be expanding the network uh a bit this year uh i'm hoping to bring at least another you know maybe 10 15 content creators on before the end of the year we'll see how that unfolds as well so great calls so far everyone let's go to blake blake you are live on what on earth is happening welcome i've unmuted you from the server end just unmute yourself on your end there you go okay i'll uh can you i'm am i coming through all right uh i'm i'm i'm moving tomorrow and my headphones are packed up so you're coming through fine sound good okay outstanding hey um i'm not you know i've been thinking about this a lot it's a little bit tangential i uh i hope you'll forgive me for that in advance but uh um a couple months ago or probably about six months ago i uh i sent you a really shitty message and i have just been thinking about that a lot and uh i just i don't i don't i don't really recall it but uh that's okay uh you can just continue on with saying what you were going to get into well i mean i literally i just wanted to publicly apologize for being a piece of and you've really uh just been influenced me influencing my life a lot the last six months and um i you know i just really wanted to make it really brief i'll say that one i don't personally recall it but if it was something that was as you said shitty um i i forgive you because you've uh made amends by saying that you acknowledge uh that you were incorrect and you uh opened up your mind to you know uh consider these ideas and so that's as far as i'm concerned finished and over with so i don't really hold grudges in that regard um uh what i have quote grudges against or problems with is when people cannot make uh an amends or cannot reform their former bad behavior and double down on it um you know if people just admit i made a mistake i was wrong i i think that that was not good to do and i won't do it anymore i have no problem with moving forward and uh you know continuing uh and hearing what they have to say it's when people don't acknowledge what they've done that they clearly obviously know was not right then then i i have more of a problem with it i won't forgive that i'll let it go like as far as i won't hold on to like seething hate that's gonna consume me inside about it at least i try not to um but uh when somebody does something like that what you just did that takes a lot of courage man so uh no problem uh consider it forgotten just like everyone else it's a pleasure and honor to speak to to be on the show just briefly um you know i you know all things aside it was more you know i said just something to the effect that you you know you i don't even need to say what i said it i mean unless you know anyways that's okay you don't have to i don't like it yeah yeah i just felt like it was it was the right thing to do for me i mean you know i i genuinely sincerely appreciate the you know the acceptance of your apology i didn't i don't expect that although just knowing you to some extent having listened to quite a bit of your content is that what did it like you you you gave the content a chance and you listened and you investigated on your own and then that opened up your mind a little bit more sure so i mean it's kind of funny i mean i was i just you know i had one great network network on my home screen you know i was always listening to it you know i guess i think maybe we're almost i don't want to say two alike but i'm kind of abrasive and i'm kind of a mean you know when i feel like i need to be and so sometimes i lash out at people you know in person and online and it's not really acceptable or appropriate i'm a former order follower um but i think you know i maybe and not that i want to get into myself but maybe it's redeemable that i did conscientiously object in 2009 when i kind of you know i was a private i figured out what was going on interesting you know that i was yeah i was in it i was in the arizona infantry and i just i figured out like you know we're over in afghanistan my unit was in afghanistan at the time they were about to send me over and i'm realizing wait we're doing all this for opium and gold and minerals and so on and i just i had i anyways i approached my chain of command all the senior sergeants and officers and i just told them that they all knew i i just basically told them you know i knew they know what they were doing is wrong and they're not gonna you know uh use me at their expense and and all the rest of it so i mean i don't want to get into that as far as i'm concerned that's real courage man that's that's it this is what this is what we need more of and guess what no one needs to like me you know what i'm saying it's no skin off my beard right so you got the core principle and that's all that matters whether anybody likes me or not is neither here nor there that's insignificant what all i want to see is understand the material understand the core principles whether i butt heads with other people and we don't get along personality wise that that doesn't matter i don't need to be liked right what i do need is for people to understand the principles of what i've been saying and i'm not the only one obviously has been being taught since the dawn of humanity uh by probably people you know who are wiser as far as living life than i've ever been um but um to get the core principles and then to act upon them like you did where you didn't compromise you know your behavior anymore after you learned after you got the the idea of what was happening you said no you said the word of power you said the lost word and that's cur that's real courage that's more courage than anything so-called warriors or soldiers uh would be doing or what their masters would have them be doing that isn't real courage when you're following orders but what you did was real courage so we need more people to do that so um you know like i said liking me considering me abrasive someone else abrasive we got to get past all those ego issues and get down to the core principles which you clearly did and uh i commend you for that and uh you know that that should be an example of what other order followers need to do so uh congratulations well hey thanks partner and you know i got chills down my spine because you know honestly for a long time i was really kind of ashamed of that but you know as i matured and just you know kind of came into my own warrior hood i realized like you know that's the thing i'm the most proud of honestly probably in my whole life but uh anyways moving on from that i just want to follow up real quick and and you know resp to what you had said about uh you know i think i don't know if you asked me but uh how did i kind of grow onto your material i was watching one great work network all the time and of course your content is you know on there often so i wouldn't turn it off when you came on but it just grew on me and it grew on me and it grew on me and dude i don't know what to say like i just i what i do want to say though is i want to publicly commit and pledge i will be donating 20 per month for the next year you know uh unless something catastrophic were to happen or something so that's what i that's the least i think i could do and uh yeah it's the honor to speak with you man blake thank you so much man and uh it's a very encouraging story from someone that initially you know maybe had difficulty hearing what what i was saying but uh stuck with it and uh transcended the former mindset that they were in so uh it's an inspirational story as far as i'm concerned as far as far as uh you know maybe scathing former comments that you had sent my way think of it as forgotten you got the principle and that is what is ultimately of uh importance there so uh thanks for waking up for waking yourself up uh you know uh by giving uh this material uh another chance and staying with it uh that takes a lot of courage and that uh you know um shows that you have persistence and you could acknowledge uh when you saw something uh from your perspective the wrong way and then you know correct that perspective and as a result correct the behavior that that perspective was informing so big congratulations on that and an even bigger one for saying no to your former order following role that takes tremendous courage to do that we need more people to do it so blake thank you i appreciate the call uh fantastic stuff yeah i will those guys and uh yeah um uh and i just wanted one last thing i i intend uh you know as soon as i uh i have some things i need to handle but um beyond that i want i'm gonna be starting i was gonna call it black pills with blake but after listening to some things you had to say about black pills it really made me think about that and so i think it's going to be called black to gold with blake that's all based in a lot of thanks man yeah cool yeah thanks when you get that off the ground contact me and we can onboard you and you could even perhaps at some point uh get into your your personal story on one great work network if it's something that you would want to do uh so uh stuff like this to me that shows me that people some people are uh getting this message and uh it's uh it's uh good for me to hear that because uh i hear i see a lot of the people who don't get it every day around me so uh at least through the internet uh getting a contact like this and hearing uh you know your journey of transformation is very encouraging to me personally so thank you yeah well i mean i couldn't have asked for a you know just an unexpectedly more uh pleasant and genuine interaction with you and i'll leave you with that i want someone else to get on the line absolutely blake thank you so much man great call and i'll continue forward in your journey uh doing the great work i'm just going to uh carry out the rest of the show myself because we're running rapidly out of time and to bring someone else on is probably going to cut them off very quickly anyway and there goes the title card ladies and gentlemen is it all comes down to one decision join us