WOEIH 255

freedom man that's what it's all about [Music] you've got to groove on freedom like the good book says [Music] [Music] welcome you are listening to what on earth is happening this show will discuss the topics of human consciousness mind control natural law the occult and all issues that affect the freedom of the people of earth what on earth is happening will endeavor to shine light upon the darkness of our world and to offer empowering solutions to the problems we face as humanity approaches its critical moment of choice and now here is your host mark pascio [Music] welcome one and all you're watching what on earth is happening i'm your host mark pacio my website what on earth is happening dot com ladies and gentlemen government is slavery and here on what on earth is happening we are ending slavery one mind at a time welcome and thank you for tuning in today today is sunday may 22nd 2022. this is episode number 255 of what on earth is happening and we have a great show lined up for you here today the topic of today's broadcast is going to be resources and the one great work with my special guest one of the great content creators from the one great work network ivan oyola jr my friend and my peer in the one great work so i won't even so much be interviewing ivan today as i will be sort of giving him the floor and letting him set the topic and the direction for our discussion today and then in the third hour of the broadcast we'll be going to your calls uh for the topics that we talk about with ivan today on the discord platform in the third hour so that's what's coming up for this edition of what on earth is happening and i think it's a great time for a guest such as ivan i think i may even do a guest next week as i've told everyone i'm going through some personal turmoil and difficulty i'm not really yet quite ready to announce exactly what it is on the air i've told some close personal friends et cetera obviously family members but i've been really dealing with a lot of that personal um stuff in the last several weeks so i think this is a good time to have some community and support and like-minded individuals that i could talk to on the show and then we'll go back to uh more focused content as far as like topics like psyops and occult traditions to round out this season of what on earth is happening so for now i'm going to jump over to my uh slide so i could do a few housekeeping announcements and then we're going to bring ivan on the air and i'll get right to it here we go thank you to will keller for the great artwork as always for the show again the topic for today worldly resources and the one great work with my special guest ivan oyola jr what on earth is happening is broadcasting on a streamlined format this season on a six month on six month off schedule i may continue this format i may go back to a full production uh staff um you know with multiple cameras next year uh we'll see what happens we'll see what my living situation is and i'll make that determination uh you know before next season but for now from january through june we're broadcasting on a six month on six month off schedule and a streamlined format with me producing myself the how to become the true media is racing toward us this this great technological seminar that i host every year in the second half of the year started uh you know a couple years back um the response to it has been fantastic and this year should be no different it's going to be taking place every monday evening this year from monday july 11th to monday december 12th one class each week on monday evening from 8 pm to 11 p.m we actually open up the class at seven so that people can come in and you know not be late not miss anything they have a full hour to join students enrollees will have a full hour to join the class and then after the three hours of class instruction we break up for informal discussion anyone that wants to stay is welcome to do that for an additional couple of hours usually at least on obviously no one's obligated to take part in that if they want to participate they can feel free to do so so enrollment will be going on until july 4th of this year so uh what's that maybe uh six weeks left to enroll if that so we are at about 90 of the number that i personally want to reach so once again i implore people do not wait until the last minute because enrollment may not last that six weeks or however long is left so if you do want to take part in the how to become the true media 2022 seminar i would say enroll immediately and do not wait until the last minute because enrollment could close prior to july 4th just putting that out there so no one feels like they weren't told that should i close enrollment early that's for electronic enrollment if you enroll via check or money order which i opened up to do this year which was different than former years i didn't have that option but if you enroll by mail the check or money order must be received in my hands by july 1st so again if you're waiting to enroll via mail-in donation do not wait that long do not do it right up until the very last second so all of the um beginner and intermediate skill sets that are going to be taught in this class are listed at the seminar website howtobecomethetruemedia.com once again howtobecomethetruemedia.com check it out and um if this sounds like something that you need help with if you need technical help if you say oh i'm not a good tech person oh i i don't know how to do what mark and other content creators do this is the seminar for you i'll be taking you through all the skill sets necessary to become a content creator to become a member of what is what i call the true media not even the new media but the true media you know there's a lot of new media that's not so true right this is how to become the true media how to actually put the truth out into the world if you understand natural law if you understand objective morality but what's been holding you back from sharing it publicly online is oh i just don't have the technical skill sets well there's no excuse because this is the seminar that will teach you every technical skill set that you need it's extremely affordable it's a 523 dollar and 93 donation but that includes 23 three hour sessions so if you break it down it's extremely affordable i think it comes out to under eight dollars an hour you try to get hands-on instruction in the tech field for that price uh not going to be able to do it so for more information on this great upcoming seminar and to enroll in it visit the website howtobecomethetruemedia.com uh really looking forward to teaching this seminar this year i think it's going to be awesome we have a lot of enrollees already and um i'm definitely looking forward to sharing that uh those skill sets and that content with people the one great work network is uh going very strong we're simulcasting on it right now i'm going to be bringing on to the show today one of the great content creators from the network so please do check out onegreatworknetwork.com one of the biggest projects that i've ever personally began and put together with the help of many people and uh not only can you support the network itself at onegreatworknetwork.com but you can make donations to each individual content creator which is what i implore people to do to help support them and the great work that they are doing and keep them doing it so check it out 60 phenomenal content creators on the network already we're going to be adding more uh this year so one great work network dot com the what on earth is happening ipfs project has been opened and if you want to help preserve all the content that i have put together as part of what on earth is happening and all of my material presentations etc check out what on earth is happening dot com slash ipfs ipfs is a distributed protocol that makes censorship virtually impossible and acts as a way to distribute information via many computers called nodes over the network if you're interested in hosting an ipfs node 4 what on earth is happening content specifically dedicated you will need an internet connection of 200 megabits per second in the upload or upstream direction that is one of the base main requirements and this is a dedicated project so nothing else is to be run on the computer that you use for the node i would personally help you set the node up and uh for more information you can go to this page and download a pdf document that will explain all of the preliminary requirements technical requirements and equipment that will be needed to do this i know some people have expressed interest and i have not yet gotten back to you i've been exceedingly busy in in all honesty uh personal matters that have prevented me from putting enough of my attention on some of the things that i need to for what on earth is happening please be patient with me there's a lot of like rocky things going on personally for me and i'm trying to balance that with the one great work right now and it's uh proving to be somewhat of a challenge uh and ivan and i are going to get into that a little bit on the show today so please be patient with me regarding people who have contacted me who i know i have not yet gotten back to i will be getting back to you probably within the next week so what on earth is happening dot com slash ipfs check out what ipfs is all about and check out the what on earth is happening ipfs project i'll be taking part in the second freedom under natural law conference coming up this september 10th and 11th 2022 the freedom under natural law conference is a conference on topics related to unifying for freedom being focused in action and this year it's called convergence focusing on unity focus and action with a plethora of great speakers andrew kaufman brandon martin brandon spencer brian easterday chris janssen cindy long crypt rick david whitehead dana martin jim davis indica martin leslie powers myself melissa arnautovic patty lager rob smith sethicus boza vienna third eye and will keller fantastic speakers many of whom are already on the one great work network i'm going to be preparing an original presentation for this conference myself and for more information please visit the conference website at freedomundernaturallaw.com once again freedomundernaturallaw.com funnel 2 coming at you september 10th and 11th of this year i'll also be taking part in the shattering the illusion conference on september 24th 2022 featuring chris jansen ivan oyola jr my guest today james cordner jennifer rose joe murray mark devlin myself nathan riddette sean mccann and will keller this is a one-day online event about natural law true anarchy consciousness mind control and the occult plus music from diesel automatic and joe murray for more information on this great event please visit shattering the illusion dot info once again shattering the illusion dot info in the third hour of the show today after ivan and i discuss the topics that we want to get to we will be opening up the call-in line for your calls on the discord platform so if you want to call in to talk to my guest ivan oyola and myself visit what on earth is happening dot com slash discord that will uh take you into our what on earth is happening discord server which acts as the call-in room for the show if you're listening or watching on what on earth is happening dot com slash show there is also a widget there underneath the player where you can click that to enter the calling room as well so we will be taking your calls in the third hour the arc 2.0 offer is of course still available man i'm telling you arcs are flying out of here and it's great to see people hungry for this information i must have sent out at least 12 arcs this week i had seven in my house at one point so people are really hungry for the information about what's been going on on this planet uh and uh the arc is all about that it is a repository it's called the amazing repository of knowledge it is a repository of information that i have gathered since the time that i've been online it consists it's a hard drive consisting or a solid-state drive consisting of 26 over 26 000 audio files over nine thousand five hundred books and over three thousand four hundred videos from my personal archive of research that i've gathered over the years you send me a storage device i copy the data and send it back to you there are rigid shipping instructions to protect your property and to make the process go smoothly because i have to sort of handle it like almost the factory uh operation because if i don't it will get completely out of control i mean like i said some days you know seven of people's hard drives pile up in my home in one day you know and that's that's good that's great to see but at the same time i have to keep up with that work you know and you know keep keep them flowing and make sure that nothing 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unfortunately i have not been responded to i have to find out what is going on with the company that usually handles my t-shirts maybe it was an email issue or my email went to their spam or something like that but i'll be calling them tomorrow tomorrow to determine that and hopefully we can get the order uh of new t-shirts the new batch of shirts i'm probably going to put in an order of over 400 shirts so hopefully that goes smoothly and we can get that fast tracked this week if possible um so new shirts will be in soon i apologize for the delay uh bear with me on that as well but we will have new shirts hopefully i can keep printing with the same company because they do pretty good work actually they do very good work and um i'd like to keep using them but uh if they're unfortunately maybe had some business problems and are not operating i'll have to find that out this week and see what i have to do i might need to go with a different company but i'll know that this week for sure and 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let me uh back out of here and jump over to my guest let me get my headset together and then switch over to discord on my laptop give me one moment folks all right okay ivan is waiting he is in house today so let's bring him in ladies and gentlemen one of the great content creators of the one great work network host of the podcast guy next door speaks and for your mind a z ivan oyola jr ivan welcome to what on earth is happening and i'm not have i'm not getting your audio hold on one moment make sure you're not muted on your end ivan well i gotta make sure you're not muted on my end hold on one moment all right let's try that again go right ahead there it is great there it is all right let's go full screen with you there you go ivan welcome to the show and ivan is in house today he is seated uh just across my hallway in my uh small home office here at what on earth is happening headquarters it would be difficult for me to bring him in a lot right alongside me with type of camera angle that we use here with no producer so instead of doing that i am just bringing him in via discord through my home office so ivan is in-house right here but just in the next room so uh ivan i'll let you uh take the floor and take this in the direction that uh you want to take it you could tell people about what you've uh seen here coming into walton earth as happening headquarters how i operate and we can get into a discussion of resources and the one great work uh and other topics that you want to discuss today uh as the guest for the for the show today so uh the floor is yours my friend take it away all right so i guess this is another guy next door speaks hijacking uh you know i don't know if it's happening exactly guy next door speaks plus or extra or you know super because the operation i do at home just a regular computer the camera microphone and still create content look at this stuff folks i mean i'm in a room with about you know a couple of big computers that handle the one great work network he's got stuff where he creates content back there he's mentioned about shirts needing to be ordered you could see some of these shows shows around here so man you know so this is a whole system and by the way that um you know um gopher you have here that production assistant the one with the heels she's freaking fine i don't know all these extra people you have running around and then i saw tucked back here those uh fairies you know that create the content that did our screen thank you god thank god for the tech fairies that help with all of that thank god for the presentation gnomes thank thank god for uh the the dwarves that help out with the production on show day i mean without that i don't know what i would do you know uh as you can see it's just heavily trafficked uh now but uh you know you see it's a very sarcasm it's just mark i showed up here hours ago i got here early from new york i'm in this area because of my oldest son's wedding and then my younger son traveled out here also dropped him off at the amtrak and then made my way over here to mark's and since then just mark by himself folks so that's all the sarcasm intentional there if those people want to take and create conspiracies out of all this stuff with the nsa cia funding you know this massive thing here we're in a mansion you know not yeah this is all marked by himself all this stuff so i i don't know it's incredible how cramped is it how cramped is it in here man it's it's it's like a closet really it's very cramped and you know even for a couple of people to be in one of these rooms it's cramped um so it's it's one of the things that i think you know content creators like ourselves see and deal with every day um you know tight living conditions um not having tons and tons of resources um you know i'm not saying i'm without resources i'm comfortable right it's enough to do what i need to do the universe has provided for that i'm thankful for that i have a complete mindset of gratitude for what has been provided otherwise i wouldn't be able to do this right but you see that you know it sort of has to encroach upon your life where you know i'm i'm living meagerly in small quarters uh you know i definitely need a little bit more room to spread this stuff out not have to be like well you know t the t-shirts came in i have to pull down some of the things that i have on my shelf because i have no other room to put them you know that that is how small this place is people are talk about that i'm very good at um managing space because things are so small and i have to i joke around like the all i do all day is play tetris you know it's playing tetris to fit things in everywhere uh but i do make good efficient usage of the space and again uh very thankful for the resources that did come in uh as part of people being very generous and donating toward my work uh because that helps you know uh every single thing that i use to do what i do that we use to do what we do as content creators requires resources it requires money nobody's coming in here and saying uh let's let me just buy everything that you need now i do have an amazon wishlist that i use i know it's amazon and people you know get nuts about that but they make it easy to have a a simple tech wish list and you know i'm using that to um you know get you know some smaller items that i require and it works really well um you know people can donate those types of resources but if you have no resources it becomes very difficult to to begin this type of work you know you and you can start with little amount of resources it's not like you have to have tons and tons and tons of money to begin this type of work but i would say you can't have none you you're going to need some equipment right you're going to have to take some resources that you've accrued or acquired from somewhere and you're going to have to use a portion of that to get some halfway decent equipment to be able to create content on and you know that is something that people have to simply a lot for they have to maybe make a little bit of a sacrifice to procure those things and then once you do have those types of resources in hand that allow you to get the actual equipment required you know we're using computers you know desks have to be bought to put the computers on you need microphones headsets etc you know computer monitors you know and other little ancillary technology obviously keyboards mice you know things like that um speakers you know then you're off to the races then you can actually do this type of work and one of the things that i do in how to become the true media is i explain this to people i tell them the equipment that's going to be required so you know exactly what you're dealing with and then i show it to people and show them about how much things cost for average sort of run-of-the-mill uh not super high-end but not junk not cheap junk like you know mid-range good reliable equipment that you don't have to go out and spend pro dollar top dollar on things but you don't want you don't want absolute baseline junk either that'll break down on you is not worth your resources you you want good mid-range equipment that is going to be dependable so you don't have to keep buying it every couple weeks you know it breaking down and things like that so ivan um you know give give me your view on how easy and or difficult you know give me you know your view of the spectrum of how this is when you're just starting out as a content creator because i think that a lot of people have this fear of uh this is going to take unimaginable amount of resources or this is going to really cut into my bottom line this is really going to hurt me you know i'm going to have to make a major sacrifice um you see what i have here and it's not you know it's not nothing it's not you know not a consideration like money had to be put into this operation as small as it is uh you know i would say it's not a totally mini operation but it's not a big operation either it's like maybe just medium to to even smaller medium operation because of the space that i have you know so i can't really grow it that much unless i move into a larger space so um you know give me your experience with um dealing with the beginning and entering into looking at okay i'm going to need this here's how much it's going to cost this is what i'm going to have to a lot for it in my you know in my uh you know personal resources and you know put that out there to to get what i need to start making what i need to make because this is something that i know is a conversation is is what's going on in the minds of people who have not yet started and i'd like your take on it as an existing content creator and how you went through that process when you were beginning yeah i started simple kind of how you started simple it was just audio all right i know you still had the big computer and and you know because you were doing the archives and all that kind of stuff or the arc but people like me you know some people might just start with a cell phone and record their stuff and just do audio and then just upload it that's a beginning that's simple and cheap but then you know the information the content is what's important so that's a simple way to start but then you start getting into you know having guests on so now you need to either you're going to be two people in the same place recording on one device or you got to start having equipment technology two microphones a computer that can record and process that or you're gonna need to edit that now you're starting to go you know up your ante now is it gonna be just a regular laptop at first i was able to do it with an older laptop but then once you start introducing video right okay now we're gonna do a video so now the processing increases now the editing increases on the laptop unless you're a tech person and can put stuff in there that really isn't gonna get it done so now you gotta get invest in a bigger computer a tower you know and not just your regular 150 dollar walmart one but that might work okay for you know at the beginning but again you're still evolving and creating more stuff and you want to do more with it and now you're talking storage because if you put it out into the cloud that's one thing but if with youtube censorship and all this kind of stuff it gets taken down and you just uploaded it it's gone you need to store it you need to save it so again that's another avenue you know hard drives i noticed in your uh setup over there you have a ton of all these hard drives storage devices because you need to back everything up that's right so that's we already went from just audio recording either on a phone or on the you know thing now we're talking computers and let alone to put it out there uh you need an electricity bill right because all this stuff runs on electricity and guess what you need access to the internet right internet service provider so now i'm really you need to pay internet i'm really glad all these different layers i'm really glad you brought up two things two things very important in there and that's storage because a lot of people don't understand how to store data how to archive it how to back it up backup is so important okay and i i tell people in the how to become the true media seminar is all of your data worth about fifty dollars every single piece of data that you've ever created and or downloaded and or stored on your computer and every single one of them always says yes and then i ask the question how many people back up your data on a daily basis and almost no one no some there's some that will raise their hand and say yes i do do that but guess what it's like less than a a 20th of the actual class and then i'm saying well if your data is worth fifty dollars and everybody says that it is worth infinitely more than that how can you not be backing it up on a daily basis and it's because they haven't really thought of that dynamic if you look to your own left you'll see all of the hard drives that i have there in that one little cubicle cubby stack it's down to the to the it's all the way over to the right to your right and yeah you see how all those hard drives those those are data backups those are you know additional storage uh and you know i've used all those rights over here you you have all the discs i noticed all like people have these books yes with the sleeves to put music see every one of those all your of optical disk is full of data now what i'm currently doing with one of my assistants is i'm backing up all of those optical disks to solid-state drives because i don't trust that those optical discs will last my lifetime we're going to talk about you know how we're going to deal with things when we're gone obviously we're still generally young men maybe not super young anymore but you know what there will be a time when we're not here and we have to look at the future of how are we going to take this data move our operations on that's something that we're going to discuss significantly here today but the second thing so data and archiving and backup that's one thing i'm very glad you brought up because that does take resources and a little bit of knowledge and expertise you don't have to be a computer expert to do that stuff but a lot of people don't do it because they're not putting they're not just simply thinking i have to a lot resources for backing up my stuff and it's not that expensive this is you know i'm not saying like two three dollars but it's under a hundred dollars to back up most computers now every single device that you see in that room the one you're on behind that monitor that you're talking to me through there's a backup drive you look at the computer to your left at the empty chair next to you right next to it there's a backup drive if you look at the computer that is operating as the one great work network computer right over there to your right on the desk there's a backup drive that black box right on the desk that's a backup drive the computer behind you that is doing the what on earth is happening replays when i'm not on the air live that's acting as a streaming server okay inside there's an internal hard drive that acts as the backup drive there is no computer on my entire network on my whole system that is not actively backed up daily because my work is important to me and my data is important to me so i allocate the resources to make sure it's backed up and you got to do that for each computer that you use you know laptops desktops no exception the second thing that you brought up that was of uh tremendous importance was um uh and i it slips my mind actually um there was the data and you mentioned something else that i wanted to talk about electricity bill the internet connection thank you now electricity uh is not overwhelmingly expensive so i'm not really going to focus too much on that when you do run an operation a small operation like this your bill will go up but not so drastically that it becomes a burden um so yes that that is a consideration and i don't think it's a huge one but the internet connection is a huge consideration and i see people skimp on this all the time all the time they are not paying what they should for a good internet connection and most people do have the option of a very good internet connection available unto them but they don't want the larger bill that absolutely is going to go hand in hand with that better internet connection folks spend the resources on a good internet connection if you are going to get into the operation of doing this type of work and i implore everybody who does listen and watch my show get into this kind of work i've been imploring you for years for over a decade for a decade and a half now do not skimp on your internet connection this is i basically spend one of the classes talking about how the the general concept of the internet works why not to skimp on an internet connection home networking things like that and we focus on setting up a good internet connection buying one understanding the different kinds of them that exist and the providers you know this is something that i absolutely want people coming out of how to become the true media seminar with a firm understanding of them why it's so important not to skimp on it uh people have these satellite connections and all you know older you know dsl lines or it's just there's so many garbage connections out there to the internet and they'll they'll sell you top dollar for them they'll ask you to buy you know that connection top dollar price and they're really not worth it what you really want is a good fiber to the home connection meaning a fiber optic connection to the internet it's gonna be around a hundred dollars a month but if you don't do that the rest of your operation suffers okay now cable modems can be fairly decent they're usually capped in the upstream direction whereas fiber to the home is generally not they're generally synchronous connections meaning the same amount of bandwidth upstream as downstream but uh that's such an important consideration that you brought up there that i wanted to add that as an addendum people should look at a good fiber to the home internet connection and should not skimp on the price of that connection get at least 250 or higher megabit connection to the internet through a fiber connection is my recommendation and just bite the bullet and pay for that that is as important of a resource as any other thing that you spend for for goods and services if you're going to do this kind of work you know if you're going to just do mindless entertainment and not try to do the great work then who cares what your internet connection is you know but if you're going to do this kind of work the internet connection is one of the most important dynamics in the entire setup so just reiterating don't skimp on that so go ahead ivan you can continue yeah there's a lot of areas we can go with that because that connects to so many different things but um yep being a content creator this is my first actual live stream kind of thing honestly i record and have time to edit take out whatever bloopers or um um kind of stuff and you know and able to clean it up and then put it up there see so in that instant that's another progression my internet speed doesn't really have to be that fast coming and going right as long as i'm able to upload to put it up there however this being live stream you got the big operation going on yes we need the data to go back and forth very fast and for me my next tier instead of just uploading the pre-recorded stuff a lot of it is done like this the way we're doing here with discord or zoom where we're talking back and forth and i know people don't like watching us going right a little freezing you know that's because of the internet speech right if we're going to do that kind of stuff and communicate information and data and knowledge with people we need to have just as good as the propaganda cnn and nbc and all these people can talk you know easily without any freezing we need to be able to have that same type of technology or quality hence that's why that progression yeah you can have a basic five megabits 10 megabits whatever connection okay just upload it and leave it for the half hour an hour or two to upload but when you're doing this stuff back and forth you get what you pay for unfortunately so that's another level that's so so important that you mention the difference between doing a video operation that requires a lot of editing in post-production that's generally called post-production in in video which means that you're going to record your material but then you're going to go back and take it into a non-linear editing software program and take out some snippets that you don't want in there this type of a production has no post production it's a what you see is what you get operation meaning if there's some type of a problem or glitch we just power through it and work through it and there's no editing so the show is what we make it live in real time i like that because it uh gives you a more to me anyway it gives a more personal flavor to to your work where somebody is just seeing how you communicate and operate in real time and you have to simply roll with the punches okay so i find that more dynamic i find that more real right people get a a a genuine sense more so i believe of your personality and the way that you go about doing things in real life uh plus the nice part about it is once the show is recorded that's the show there is no post-production unless there's really a bad technical problem or noise or anything and folks i just want to let you know as a brief aside uh you might hear a little bit of extra noise in the background i'm sorry i can't avoid that i don't have a soundproof studio i'm operating in my house uh you know maybe we can do something different if my living circumstances improve in the next year or so but i'm running obviously an air conditioner in my room it was 96 here in philly yesterday it was like 93 or 94 here today so uh you know that's pretty sweltering in the type of humid conditions in philadelphia i have to run an air conditioner even while i'm on or i'd be sweating half to death in here ivan takes the heat like a champ he's like oh you're you're you're complaining he's like it was 104 when i left phoenix i'm like jesus god you know but uh different dry heat as opposed to human we were talking about that but uh anyway going back to the topic here um you know uh absolutely recorded yeah the post-production work if you could pull that out of your workflow you're saving yourself so much time it's it's really you make up for that when you turn your production into a live stream by by your labor see your labor is a resource right it's not just money it's not just tangible physical things it's your effort it's your work and and what you're putting into it through your own bodily and mental energy so if once you're you're done your material and your discussion and you know taking calls or whatever then the show is what it is it's locked in you have a recording of it which i'm making here on the computer i'm seated at uh while we're streaming okay and then i take that and i upload it and that's it then there's no post no post production work it saves a lot of resources in the form of energy and work right and we have to look at those as resources too your time is a resource it's not just money your time and your energy are resources if you can streamline that in your production workflow then you spent your resources wisely in the setup of doing that okay that's why i wanted to move to a video show that had no editing there wasn't a pre-edited podcast that was live and there was no post-production work to be done that once i recorded that in live time that's the show so uh very very great points that you bring up right out of the shoot here ivan uh and it's definitely a lot of things for people to mentally chew on when they're gonna decide how are they going to attack this work how are they going to get involved and uh what is their whole production workflow going to be like so uh thank you for bringing that up and go ahead and continue and whatever topic you want to go to next yeah continuing on all that uh props and shout out to james cordner he does a show called hitchhiker's guide to truth and he kind of bypassed me pass me on the fast track because i still do the post-production stuff for now he on odyssey does saturday night live streams and he just started about a year ago so he got his stuff down learned what he needed to learn and had his information and knowledge and stuff and look he's live streaming he has his guests on and does stuff on saturday night so that's someone who didn't take years and years of you know like me learning and editing and packaging it and then putting it out this guy passed that and just went straight to live streaming so again those are the different options some people could just stay pre-recorded okay fine and some people go go to the live stream and again again right there we're not even judging it right anybody can do it in whatever way they choose to uh that and it's perfectly acceptable the content is what is important obviously um one of the things that i am going to explain to people in the how to become the true media seminar is these different methods uh that you're obviously free to choose whatever method works for you works best that you're comfortable with and then show them the techniques that would be used to do that and one of the things that i i have to bring up i'm going to re-emphasize it over and over again whenever i get the chance to talk about technology because it was one of the things that was the most mind-exploding technologies for me right in doing this type of work when i learned about ndi network device interface created by newtek the makers of the 3d software called lightwave 3d that's what they were mostly known for as a company now they're actually becoming known more for ndi than even their heavyweight software in the 3d space that they were once you know king of that mountain but once ndi came out years ago and i started learning about it and understanding what its capabilities were the my my mind just completely shifted when it came to video workflow and the understanding of how a video workflow could work uh over a a small home network such as i run here uh and if people understand that what the technology that's being put into their hands for free via ndi can do if they look into it and they read about it and they really understand it don't don't just try to look at oh that technology can do this this this really understand how it can affect a workflow you are if you fully actually truly understand and appreciate it you're going to realize that this is practical alchemical gold in the great work literally it is it is something that has completely changed the way that i do things and i'm going to emphasize it in the how to become the true media seminar as well uh because i really want more people to understand it from teaching it to the small amount of people that i have a small percent of them have actually adopted it and used it and when they use it they say now i understand what you're talking about why you tried to emphasize that so much because it's a game changer and i just want to say that look it up there's a there's a little um guide if you can find it online it's called the unofficial guide to ndi i highly recommend reading that book you could look at it as a book or a pamphlet whatever but it's a it's a pdf document that is out there just type in the unofficial guide to all things ndi i believe that's the full name the unofficial guide to all things ndi if you read that it will give you a full understanding of what this technology is and how you yourself if you're looking to become a content creator uh can employ this in your workflow of course especially when it comes to video but for audio also so just wanted to add that in uh where do you want to take it next ivan all right so yeah with putting up this all this content we're talking already an area that's just it's like after something something else has to happen before that all this stuff is about putting the information out there creating the content now what content are we putting out there that's right all this comes after you've taken all this information in that's right learn about truth learn about you know all the uh um what is it uh you know the logical fallacies learn about the occult you know learning everything so there's work that needs to be done before you actually do work of course so this is why look at where what are we at 2022 2007 is when i started waking up to things so this is already why like 15 years later and i'm out here first time on your show you know in person putting out you know how we can create content but look at all the time it took to get right knowledge acquire the knowledge figure things out separate the false you know information the deception and all the obfuscation material to what's true narrow it down to true and then be able to build on that and harness that and then learn how to communicate that just through you know audio podcast guy next door speaks and then you know coming on other people's shows and then going on video see so it's a lot of things not just you know just go out there and talk it's a personal journey it's a personal journey and it could take years i mean i just look at mine it wasn't overnight right i mean i didn't really start to even reverse the satanic mindset that i was once in uh until probably around the year 2001 you know is when i really consider i was working on breaking that down now i was slowly coming out of it more before then but if you even just take 2001 is okay this is the year i'm hardcore beginning to at least break the former mind control and conditioning of my satanic mindset you know when i was a priest in the church of satan until i actually went public with my material was 2007 and only in a small way like just presentations then i didn't have a show until 2010 right even an audio podcast so if you you look at 2007 as the the the end date or beginning date i should say of my actual public work from the year that i was i consider i was really coming out of my conditioning that's six whole years if you look at 2010 as the the beginning date of starting to do public work that's nine years okay so it it's not an instantaneous process folks uh but what i would like to be here for for people who are ready to begin doing their public work is i'd like to show you how to do the technological stuff i'm very good at that that's my background it's part of my background i i share in the first class of how to become the true media um all of the jobs that i kind of had in the past obviously not you know stupid jobs you know i've had those two you know i've been a bus boy at some point you know i i i worked uh in a textile factory believe it or not i packaged classical music cds in a classical music warehouse i had jobs like this okay i did things like this in the past you know did things did what you had to do to make resources right we could talk about how doing regular normal quote everyday jobs can hamper doing the great work if if enough resources aren't coming in to split your time okay or possibly do this full-time if you can make enough resources now um you know but those aren't the kind of jobs i tell people about in the seminar i tell people about all the technical jobs that i ever had pretty much in my whole technical career to show them how i acquired the knowledge that i have now to teach this seminar so that's part of it in the introductory part of the seminar i go through you know my actual professional background in the tech world so um just wanted to bring that up and uh you know wherever else you want to take it go right ahead right so we were talking about putting the content out there but what content the other part of the work is learning and here this is where now my real reason to coming here or or you know doing this with you was because that time the energy what's being done and the quote unquote reward or the labor or how society works how things have been manipulated that everything you're doing here there's all this setup and what you have going on in the room that you're at because i was looking i was confused i didn't know how we were going to pull this off but then seeing your laptop we do the discord over here with this computer it's being sent right back to that computer and then that's broadcasting to the it's like wow that's pretty badass that's ndi ndi makes that possible and who paid you for the market that's the question who paid you all this work open source software well actually ndi isn't fully open source there's a there's a free component but then the technology actually underneath is actually proprietary there's open source variants and libraries of ndi in the open source community but technically it's not fully open source but yeah i mean imagine man uh they're answering you are they your sponsors they are not sponsored i'm not getting any kickback by mentioning them but like you joked about earlier i mean the cia is just um they're really really treating me well in this half row home in in the middle of uh crowded uh south philadelphia uh in in uh rooms that are almost as large as a a couple of closets you know to a point where you know we have to move chairs out of the way just to pass each other you know it's that tight quarters you know so you make do with what you have it's one of the things that you have to learn about resources is look at what you can do not ha not being showered with goods and resources right okay i i'm comfortable and i have what i need that's important right look if people don't have the actual survival things that they require nobody's going to be thinking about doing this type of work this is a given right we have to start from there right you need enough resources to comfortably live where you're at to pay your bills as far as electricity water gas etc right if you have a mortgage to pay that if you have a rent to pay that et cetera right these are going to hamper this operation right off the bat if you don't have enough resources just to take care of that stuff you're not going to be thinking about let's get computers so we can you know talk to people about objective morality right you you know on the hierarchy of needs those needs have to be met because then you're going to be struggling for survival so it's a given and understood we're talking about people who are at least bringing in enough resources that they can meet those basic survival needs and from there in addition to that then slowly build up some equipment and it doesn't have to be done overnight you know this should be emphasized you don't need to do this overnight this could take a year's long process i didn't get the i didn't get all of this equipment overnight i bought these things like one at a time you know when i could afford to do it some other people generously unbelievably generously who's and they don't want to take credit for if they don't want their name mentioned you know donated equipment to me and i mean fairly expensive equipment stuff that most people you know it's not a joke the dollar figure on it you know so you know people because they believe in my work did that and you know saw that i was you know staying with it and just kept pressing on pressing on i take a hiatus here and there when i need it for my health but then i come back and i press on and i don't stop and you keep moving forward people will recognize that when you do the great work they'll help you they'll contribute to you you know and it might not be immediate you you can't give up you can't go no one supports what i do and just give up now i know there are people who struggle with that and have been dealing with the procurement of resources tell our viewing audience how things went with your progression of your public work okay and i i want to know like did people come forward did they help contribute did they donate um did they help you to go to the next level with it you know i'd like to hear a little bit about that story because a lot of people will struggle with trying to move their operation to the next level and even just procuring enough that they have their basic needs met and then they could start you know acquiring some equipment over time to do this work so give them your take on that all right well here's probably where uh a bunch of people might start calling me an idiot like oh he's an idiot he's a freaking idiot he didn't do it right or whatever like you know what i have a job i have a steady job i have a good job you know work for the post office all right now here's where in the last several years you know maine especially during the whole scam democrat right where you know time is very important all right and when we look at work and money the labor we have what's natural and then i what i always refer to as artificial trust the artificial stuff but everybody really is on the artificial thing that you need to have this man-made job work there hours give you 40 hours a week or or overtime and all that to get this proxy get this money in order to do be able to provide your food clothing and shelter and any other thing you need to do whereas doing this great work is like you know for the conference yes some people you know they either contributed a little bit or bought tickets mainly i worked the overtime to pay for that conference as far as getting money for whatever stuff i put out i don't think i received anything until you created the one great work network i put my profile up there and you had me activate the donate thing that's the only time maybe i had a couple of donations come in that's it to be honest that's it if i was depending on the one great work network or one great work to do stuff right yeah that that's not providing anything so that was all through my labor and that's what people well you're not doing it right you're an idiot what do you expect cause well when you step back and look at you know the goodness of life and humanity and how we're all one and and you know god and and you know we're connected to the universe all this having to work for a paycheck and do mindless kind of [ __ ] just to take up time and keep us busy because again people need to break down those words i learned from you the language of the birds business business is busyness that's what it is to keep you busy busy busy busy on the rat race on the hamster wheel doing all that stuff to be able to feed clothe and shelter yourself whereas what we're doing how many people are throwing money on us like strippers you know like here's a 50. here's 100. yeah you're doing a great job you know yes you may have some people that for you mark that have stepped up and that's fine but people like me i'm you know i'm not as well known or out there as you little and we could talk on that because walking through the streets i asked you how many people have you seen well you know with your shirt on let alone recognize you and nobody i i could i could walk through this city continually 24 7 and never be recognized so that that tells you even how popular my work is which is really not much at all and that's that's just it you know people are very ensconced in the illusory uh moral education which is very real very important very vitally connected to human freedom it's it's everything when it comes to human freedom isn't even really valued people would rather watch people throw a ball and hit it with a stick or you know tackle each other or you know kick a ball or you know smash a puck you know or throw a ball through a hoop you know give them millions give them millions that that that tells you everything that we need to know about where the human value system is really at uh in people's minds and in people's hearts and it's it's sad it's a sad social uh commentary it's a sad social state of affairs but unfortunately that's the way that it is and um you know what i don't want that to discourage potential content creators i i find it it hurts my heart that that is the level of support that content creators have received i i i wanted one great work network to highlight other people's work other than mine so that they could get more support and continue to grow their operations and that's what i want to see it become okay it that's important people have to understand how important that is and it's not like we're we're not sitting here begging for money we're sitting here trying to explain to people how important the procurement of resources for people to do the one great work is and that doesn't happen for free right the one great work doesn't say anything about resources being free does it say your internet connection's free it's the one great work it doesn't say free internet connections it doesn't say free computers to be handed out right all of that still costs the normal rates that these goods and services go for in an illusory money-based economy okay regardless of what anybody wants to talk about as money right it's still a constructional idea that has the value that people hold in their mind to exchange something that they have that somebody else uh wants or or vice versa something they need that somebody else has and when they don't meet up they use money as the exchange medium that's all well and very well understood but what we're talking about here is people having to take the bulk of their time just to meet the survival needs and that keeps them so busy with the survival aspect of it they never have really they never make the time or can make the time without a tremendous amount of personal sacrifice that possibly puts them deeper in survival mode to do this work to reach out to other people and to do the actual moral education that is required of all of us and that is why having people who are the the very forebearers of this information i guess you could say they're the ones who are at the tip of the spear if they get the help and the resources and the support that they need right they could pave the way for other people to break into that field of endeavor right that's why people who are actively doing this now it's so critical to support their efforts especially if you're not doing it if you're not doing the one great work and by that i mean out there publicly online talking about objective morality natural law the state of human freedom consequences free will behavior in connection with consequences how we create the reality we're experiencing how it's all about causality the underlying causal factors these are the important grassroots educational efforts we need to get out there if you're not actively doing that education yourself right then i feel that the least people who are not doing that themselves could do is contribute resource wise whether it be in the form of uh some form of money some form of physical resources or even labor time labor support like that i do have a couple of people who do come over here and support me through their voluntary labor where they'll help me archive data they'll help me organize things they'll help me make physical items etc and that's unbelievably appreciated because without that i'd have to work harder at all those uh tasks and physical tasks uh and i wouldn't have as much time for uh you know organization of the ideas that i want to cover and flesh out and presentations that i need to make etc so uh that being said um people not only should support content creators directly with their resources if they're not doing the the one great work themselves uh but um you know they should start to looking at allotting resources for themselves doing the work both of those things are important obviously you need resources for your own survival needs and then to put equipment in place for you to do the work if you're going to do it but barring that if you're not going to start there first the least people can do is support content creators who are already doing this they're out in front of everybody else and already there uh putting that work out to the public so i think that's important to uh to recognize yeah some of the stuff you said there you mentioned you brought up things i forgot to cover well consequence part of what really triggered me i guess you can say over this last year or so was having to keep going to work when i didn't want to go to work you know with the whole kovic crap and wear the mask and the social distance and knowing that that was so much bs but still having to go there i didn't go as much and so my income came down and now i start struggling to pay the bills that's the reality that's the consequence and what i call artificial consequences right there's consequences based in nature there are natural comedy you don't eat you get sick you know you die and stuff like that you know you're exposed to the elements two more more than you should too much cold too much heat that has an effect consequences now all this is artificial man-made consequences that people think and justify saying like this is what i meant by people saying well you're an idiot well why because i got gotta really really submit and like well i guess i gotta be a good employee good slave wage slave and go and make my money because i know this is the way it's supposed to be it's like this is all made up this is us enslaving ourselves to you know go and work do the job to get the money like okay and the grant those jobs are the society that's how we live now but again this takes it back to look i was happy doing the podcast i get with francesco we do some shows the movie music shows the truth conscious music shows the stuff with joe murray i'm not getting paid for that sure so the time i was allocating to that and enjoying myself and doing what's necessary i wasn't at work i wasn't making the proxy i wasn't making the money and the consequence was now oh my my rent might be behind or the car payment is kind of behind it's like oh [ __ ] i guess i got to submit and go to well again people will say well you don't know how to manage your time well that see now we're creating more layers not only learn the information put the time to put it out there and now oh wait now i gotta juggle and actually do this fake artificial [ __ ] because everybody else is like well no you what do you expect to live for free it's like well in a perfect world yeah we should be kind of like hey this but again that that's looking at things holistically and realizing god damn we're stuck with 99 of people that believe the nonsense that we need to be good wage slaves in order to you know and that's the part that was almost triggering me to like you know they're stuck they're stuck in a mental construct that is not truly really based in higher consciousness that's why i don't fully support anarcho-capitalism that doesn't make me an anarcho-communist that doesn't make me anything except someone telling people that without higher consciousness don't expect the world to change for the better and people don't even really understand what that means it means you have to look at what is real in nature that's part of it it's part of what begins opening up to higher consequence consciousness rather than artificial constructs that come from ideas that exist in the mind of which money is won and it's never going to go back to anything else other than that i'm not going to be changing my mind and seeing money the way the the and caps do uh and again that doesn't mean lump me in with uh dumb leftists either um so mark just go crypto crypto is the way that's the answer well i think crypto is one of the transitional points to get it away from the uh very tightly controlled fiat currency of the uh federal reserve and other central banks however the problem with fiat is that the the market manipulation that comes into play because we've instead of turning it into an actual currency a unit of uh you know actually uh of of exchange uh people uh uh have turned it into a speculative market that is very easy easily manipulated by big players uh and the exchanges and uh all they're doing is you know playing the game of forcing the price up so that they can dump it later uh and or vice versa trying to get the price to go down so they could buy it and then pump it back up uh you know it's it's a terrible terrible uh scenario in the whole crypto community and that's why i think that technological improvements should be made that create some layer of protection against that type of speculative market manipulation but there is not even hardly anybody talking about that let alone doing it uh certainly not you know the the core bitcoin coding team or you know whoever they are um it's uh it's in general a very bad situation that creates a lot of uh you know fear uncertainty doubt uh in the whole crypto ecosystem uh people who might uh go into it to improve it and help make it more stable uh it's uh you know it's unfortunately in in the short term at least not working out that way and uh it's uh very very very volatile and you know people have lost a lot of money unfortunately dealing with it um i i think it could stabilize i'm not surprised i think it could i think it could personally stabilize i think it could be used as something that gets us uh away from uh the federal reserve system and uh government-controlled fiat currency a lot of people say crypto versus fiat they don't understand crypto is fiat currency let's first of all if we're going to just briefly you know go off on a tangent about crypto let's get that right right uh fiat means let it exist that's how bitcoin exists because we say let it exist and we'll agree that you know it can act as an exchange and or a store of value right that's an agreement that's a construct it's not in nature right bitcoin doesn't exist in the realm of nature it's a technology okay i have the word official again in my mind artificial from one artificiality to another right because we're in virtual reality sure all takes place in the future that doesn't mean we can't utilize that as a tool that's what technology is it can be a virtualized technology or a tool in the digital space it could be a real technology such as a a pair of eyeglasses this is technology there's lenses made of glass you know this is a metal frame etc okay there's absolutely um different forms of technology and you know i think technology is a good thing i think it helps improve life this is how we communicate our ideas through this technology but at the same time we have to make the distinction is this something that exists in the real world of nature or is it a constructual idea obviously crypto is a constructional idea uh existing through software that's basically what cryptocurrency is is software and um it has the value that we ascribe to it by what we believe right and this is the same thing when it comes to jobs uh work making money for someone else this is all just agreed upon that if i give my time i'll get this much in the form of the mechanism that we use for exchange you know and people can't see past that they're they're rigidly attached to that idea and that's what i see as i think lower consciousness addiction and dependability dependence is something that i'm kind of hearing right of course is that society we become addicted and dependent on that yeah tools are fine but now if that tool becomes i need this every day it's like a crackhead what else has to be once in a while but now everything has to be you become dependent on that you become another become an addiction you're hooked you're hooked and you're detached from reality detached from nature and now the artificial becomes the norm that's right and that's the problem that's that's part of the i think a basic way of describing what i'm trying to point out is that speaking with people and communicating true for knowledge and ideas and pointing out what is and how it is that's real it's very unacceptable you know they don't want to accept that because it takes away from the dependence the addiction to the falsity to the artificial and that's the part it's like you know it's like well maybe we can have both like you're playing with fire because people are easily gonna go go to the artificial and to that dependency when it's like no actually you're responsible for yourself and this is not true and this we need to detach from that oh no but we still need well uh you're becoming addicted to it and that's what i mean when they keep giving those excuses and just can't see that humanity can break out of that condition it's possible okay it's maybe not likely but it is doable with enough change of the way we think which is what we're trying to create what is the factor that people are so rigidly attached to or i should say what is the factor of what has been destroyed in people who can't see that possibility i would say that factor is the human imagination that we can't imagine a world that operates a different way we can't imagine interaction voluntary interaction between very real physical human beings in the very real physical realm of nature that operates without this construct and that is because consciousness isn't high enough to operate unfortunately without that construct being in place otherwise people act in a degenerated way like animals and until we change that consciousness based upon moral interaction we're never going to be able to solve that problem because the the solution to a society that lives without those artificial constructs means that you have to solve it from a higher level of consciousness than what you're currently seeing the problem at you will never get to the solution that lies up here in consciousness if you're operating still at the same thought forms and thought processes that uh are at where the existing state of consciousness is at it's impossible this is occult principles 101 this is the law of mentalism 101 laws of consciousness and natural law 101 you have to think about it from outside the realm of construct and effects and you have to go into the causal realm to understand consciousness can solve this problem from a much much much deeper layer a much deeper level a deeper perspective but unfortunately most human beings haven't developed that level of consciousness and that's the problem and part of what's missing part of what the media knocks out of people the schooling system so-called laughable calling it education knocks out of people at a very young age and even their parents their friends their teachers their family members knocks it out of them when their children is the imagination to be able to visualize that this way we have been doing things is not necessary that's why people can't understand government isn't necessary they're in mind control which is what the word government means and they their imagination is so degraded because the big sledgehammer of the media and government and schooling has been cracking them over the head repeatedly telling them this is permanent this can't not exist society would break down and degenerate into animal behavior if it didn't exist etc so forth and that may be true from such a limited perspective from a perspective of saying society might break down into brutality and chaos if we dissolve this with no elevation of consciousness whatsoever instantaneously yeah then people might be at each other's throats i get that i've always gotten that and guess what it would still be better than what we have okay because nobody would believe anybody has the right to do violent things they would just say they're just violent people doing violent things and they don't have that right and we can stop them we have the situation now where everybody in the world practically believes that violent thugs can conduct violent behaviors and they have the right to do it just because they have a badge and call themselves a member of government or an agent of government you know so the the important part of this uh aspect of the discussion folks is detaching from the artificial at least understand that it's a constructional idea in the mind even if you're at the level of consciousness where you believe we have to have this mechanism of exchange i get those thoughts i get why people think those things but the imagination is what's being blotted out and to not understanding if humanity elevates its consciousness it does not need these artificial constructs anymore because it would be at a level where we truly do not only recognize the truth of the fact that we are actually one consciousness ultimately experiencing a subjective 3d construct so we learn and understand more about our actual uh you know source uh makeup which is consciousness and mind itself but we would be able to recognize each other as one living dynamic family and not create these strifes not create these artificial competitiveness not create this strata of having have not of rich and poor anybody who thinks that those things are necessary you need to go on indefinitely it's the same argument that there can't be good without evil total and utter [ __ ] you're lying to yourself which is part of what should never be done in studying the occult information and studying the real laws of nature and analyzing yourself and trying to change yourself to a higher level of consciousness if you take it from the approach where you lie to yourself and you tell yourself we have to have these constructs we have to have government we have to have evil we don't need to do or have any of those things not necessary and you know the only reason that they're necessary is because people haven't recognized that they're not necessary it's that simple that may sound like circular circular logic but it's not evil is only necessary in peop until people realize evil is not necessary artificial constructs of exchange are not necessary until people realize they're not truly necessary but consciousness has to develop for that not to exist for us to do away with that and that's the problem we're still trying to solve things we're trying to create new technologies but we're not elevating consciousness we're just trying to put new constructual ideas into place like cryptocurrency and then what happens we treat it with the same level of consciousness that we treated fiat currency we we create the new central banks those are the exchanges we create the new manipulators those are the big whales and the big you know uh you know uh speculators in the whole crypto world if people don't understand that's just coming from trying to create a new tool a new technology at this and use it at the same level of consciousness that humanity is already at without elevating consciousness with the new tool you know that's what has to happen and that's not happening and that's why i say crypto could be used to go around full circle as a new way of defeating the very controlled and corrupt government central bank uh you know rigged monetary system and make something that is somewhat freer than that certainly i would say much freer than that not perfect in any way but uh a better option of a form of fiat construct than banker and central you know bank and government controlled fiat version of money uh so that's my take on the whole crypto ecosystem but uh this goes hand in hand ivan with something that i know you felt very important to bring up which is what really money as a mechanism of exchange is in our society what what the all the quote fake work the busy work as you talked about um you know people have called that you know slavery jobs you know there to just distract you and keep you on the hamster wheel uh keep you just just dependent for whatever you know chump change you're thrown as a wage for survival and again i'm not i'm not totally attacking the idea of let's make an agreement this work is performed you get this in return that's i don't have any problem with that type of voluntary interaction but what we're talking about is things that ultimately in the long term don't really serve anything regarding humanity and people just do them it's a soul-sucking thing they don't want to be there they don't want to uh to it's not something that they feel strongly about that it's important or vital to do and they just want the exchange of the proxy to receive the proxy so you refer to this in your work as proxyism uh tell people a little bit about that yeah proxyism like any other religion it's it's a belief you know it's an ism so proxy of that this takes the place of this you know so in order to have food clothing and shelter you need this thing instead of just getting food clothing and shelter and we're all you know programmed to believe that you know that there's a certain thing that takes its place you know to do what's right well i'm not doing what's right who's going to pay me for it who's going to pay for it you know even the the villains the bad guys the henchmen you know the musu they don't do it just because they choose to do it and like keep your money i'll do it no go and bash that guy's head in because he's not obeying how much you're gonna pay me well here's a hundred thousand dollars well [ __ ] okay see because the proxy isn't doing what's wrong they won't do it just off-hand but who's paying you know and then the survival part you know if you don't have money if you're homeless on the street and you know a drug addict whatever like yo grab that you know rub that old lady's purse or whatever here's 50 bucks like [ __ ] okay you know so again that proxyism is the fuel for doing things whether wrong or right good or bad it's the motivation instead of just you know knowing right from wrong and doing what's right correct we're paying people it's always constantly paying i want to go back to something you were talking about you were kind of at the college level talking about consciousness consciousness and i get that i comprehend that and that is yeah that there's truth there but again sometimes you need to not necessarily dumb it down to bring it down to a layman's thing and instead of consciousness i'm always thinking about awareness right it's being aware that is what consciousness is but yet awareness because if we're just aware like this tunnel vision we need to be aware of everything else and what's uh the awareness that i kind of want to focus on awareness like you were talking about uh when you were talking about consciousness is what's possible you got to be aware of what's possible but what limits that is the fear so whether it starts down here fear awareness and what's possible or top to bottom we're being fed fear because then that limits our awareness like i don't want to go there i don't want to risk being homeless i don't want to risk you know getting evicted or having my car report or whatever not being able to have full clothing and shelter so yeah my awareness shrinks down and then you don't see the possibilities this is the only thing that's possible right yes just keep working keep working keep working you know you're born deaf and taxes that that's the only thing like no that's [ __ ] that's a construct that's a limited awareness it's a religion that's religious yes exactly so that's that's part of the problem that's what i want to bring to the table here is people's awareness of what's possible you know and not because of well is there money in it and that's what 99 of people will say that's like well how much does it pay how much does it pay boom twist the awareness locking down based on fear and nothing changes and nothing gets that many critical dynamics yes money is the resistance industry that's right that's it the system's up that's it it's there to keep [ __ ] in place that's right and we're trying to like hey hey get change that awareness expand that awareness be like wait there's limitless ways of doing things it doesn't have to just be vr let me let me tell money be it crypto be it you know let me tell you the factor that is going to affect and determine more than any other factor the opening up of those possibilities that you're talking about simply doing a behavior because you know it to be right period the end that's it now think about the power in that statement and think about what ivan just said they are putting fear into people's mindset their their consciousness if you will to keep it in a low vibration that gets them to limit their vision or awareness of what they're able to perceive and understand what it means what's being done to them and finally what that does is that cuts them off from possibility and what is possibility that's freedom freedom is the possibility to do what you what are your rights to exercise freely your rights without constraint and most people don't exercise that those rights because they're in that consciousness of fear they're being told you can't do that they're being told you have to do this etc and so forth that is the fear-based consciousness that most people on this planet are dwelling in whenever i ask people why aren't you currently doing the one great work they come back with a million different answers and every single one of them are fear-based every single one of them are not based in consciousness and awareness or agape love they're based in fear if they were based in that form of agape love then they would come back and say the only thing i truly need to understand is that this is the right thing to do everything else is meaningless and most people aren't at that level of consciousness and again they would say i will make the sacrifice to do it even in the smallest way even if you can only record some audio into your phone upload it that's it and almost everybody has that capability almost every single person in the entire western civilization at least that isn't living in a third in third world living conditions has that possibility and again possibility is what this is ultimately about the getting rid of those constructs that limit your imagination so that you can't see the possibility that is what degrades mind control that is what breaks up mind control it it it it just shatters it shatters those illusory and constructural forms of thought that the social engineers are programmed people aren't thinking those thoughts on their own they're programmed into them by the social engineer dark occult priest class so a very very powerful idea and that breaks down the religion of proxyism you know i like the idea of uh you know getting rid of the proxy you know uh go to the real thing right you know source that's it inherent value morality human beings consciousness awareness possibility true love agape love you know and uh you know then building true real things in the very real 3d world to interoperate with each other on a voluntary basis it's it's it's it's not it we make it more difficult than it is that's another thing we were talking about pre-show ivan how many things people over complicate you know over complexification makes people not see truth it's part of the idea of obfuscation you can obfuscate by trying to explain things to people so overly complexified that it doesn't need to be that difficult it doesn't need to be that complex the truth is simple it's elegant you know we don't need to visualize it so complex it's it's a change in mind that is a choice in the moment and this is a big part of present moment awareness which you know i want to uh get into at some some point on a future show but let me let me shift gears in a little bit and get your response to this because we have about 20 minutes before going to calls uh i want to bring up the the concept uh you know uh i love your idea of you know the idea of proxyism and how to get out of that um through more awareness and understanding this is socially engineered it's a constructional idea we don't really need it we need the imagination to see we can live a different way it is possible it may be a little bit challenging to change but it is possible to do and bring that different manifestation about uh we it has to first be born in our imagination and then we can develop it in the very real world of 3d manifestation but um that should be the real new normal that should be built back better exactly right exactly yeah so let me shift gears to this i see a lot of people in the freedom community not only not doing that but what i call playing to lose they are hooked on addicted to totally locked into the mindset of we've already lost the bad guys have already won and the satanists have already won regardless of what their level of understanding of who's really running the show they look at it like all i really need to be doing with my time is preparing for the inevitable collapse of human civilization and then working on just trying to survive that and don't get me wrong don't take what i'm saying out of context anyone listening to what i'm saying understand what i'm really saying i'm not saying you don't look at what the possibilities may be you don't say i'm gonna put some of my eggs in that survival basket you don't make some preparations with food water things like that weaponry okay you do all of those things okay and that's why resources are so important because it you should do those things it's very important but that's different where it's different it becomes something an altogether different animal when all you're doing are those survival things and looking at the inevitable collapse and it it's definitely going to go south it's definitely going to go to a you know a hot conflict it's definitely going to go to a collapse of all of civilization i call that mindset playing to lose those are people who are that they're seeing it as a foregone conclusion and what does that do it does exactly what you said shuts their awareness down and that's all they can see then they have tunnel vision and they're looking into it and all they can see is all the collapse is coming the class is coming out what is that attitude it's it's a mindset of fear puts their locks their consciousness into fear of vibration right not saying don't prepare for something that could be uncomfortable or even disastrous however when you make that your only game when you make that your only option when you that's your only basket right now i'm saying make that your mini basket on the side put 10 15 of your energy into that put 85 to 90 percent of your energy and playing to win right i'm not trying to play this game to lose it i'm trying to play it to win it that's why i want to avert that situation the only way of averting it is doing the great work more moral education more understanding of objective morality more understanding of natural law so i want to get your take on do you see this dynamic that i'm talking about am i imagining it is it something that i only see here how how is that elsewhere maybe in your neck of the woods in in the phoenix area you know of of the united states in arizona um give me your take on what i'm calling that many many many people in the freedom community are playing to lose yeah i see it i get it too um yeah it's that balanced thing again um i was trying to visualizing all kinds of different uh allegories and stuff it's like a boxing match you know you can either get your ass beat your ass beat your ass beat and think you're gonna pull it off in the last round for knockout you know or you can be like no okay you don't know when you're gonna win you know you can go ahead and attack the body the first second round yeah you're gonna get hit in the mid rounds you attack some more and maybe by surprise come the eighth or ninth round you land that lucky shot and guess what you ended up winning instead of you know oh i'm gonna lose everything lose that and then at the end that's when i'm gonna get the win it's kind of like that like well let everything collapse we're all you know all the vaccine shots and tracking and everything's going to come in but at least i'm going to be off grid and grow my own food and have solar panels and that's it it's like wait yeah that's good to again have that awareness of that being a possibility but before it gets to that maybe doing some great work might end up you know providing that eighth round knockout where it's like hey look we reached a critical mass and the majority of the people know what's up and it didn't happen but yeah you already you do have a place that you can go and you know live off grid and everything and help people that are still in the system in the major metropolitan areas that's something else you and i talked about the centralization of everybody they want everybody hurting together dependency on the on the system on the money on the stores the the corporations and everybody's just there and when you you know don't even think about being independent and free on your own no that doesn't exist just stay in the cities that's another form of control but yeah people again the fetus mentality that oh the illuminati has everything everything's been planned or let alone the biblical people oh it's written that all this and the the sign of the beast and everything that's happened has been foretold and all to subvert free will i think that may that might be already an instruction manager for these people and you're just fueling that you know instead of saying like wait no this is but this doesn't have to it's a stand down it's a stand down operation in religion for that reason you know look no it's it's it's passivity it's it it's festering passivity you know uh when religion gives that to people or the new age movement says just be an observer don't participate don't get too involved don't get too tied up in that no we need to exert our free will all of those operations like religion the new age movement that's to subjugate your free will to get it out of the way to get you to stand down not to get you to be active see that's the negative feminine right the negative feminine aspect or the lilith energy if you will or just the the the unholy feminine as i call it is don't exercise the sacred masculine don't do what's required don't teach people just back up back up be passive and back up no conflict is ever won on the defensive and i don't care what anybody says it doesn't matter you you could be a total non-aggressionist and i don't care what you say if there's a physical conflict of any type or even any non-physical conflict it is never won by backing up cowards back up endlessly non-stop that's not going to solve this issue that we're in that's not going to solve this situation any conflict that is worth winning you have to press it you have to go on the offense you have to you have to you have to take the tactical advantage and press the situation as ivan was giving a great example in a boxing match does a boxer win by backing up does an mma artist win by backing up an mma fighter is not going to win in the cage by backing up you have to press your attack you know you have to show that you controlled the situation at least if there's not a knockout or a submission the person who controlled the pace who controlled the the um you know uh conflict is gonna get the the award from the judge uh the judges of the the contest not the person who backed up not the person who didn't press their attack you know this is true of any thing anything that results in conflict you don't win by backing up you win by going on the offense and that's what we're talking about here don't play to lose play to win the situation even if we do end up losing fight the whole way don't be half ass and be somebody that just backs up backs up backs up but we'll cover that's not showing any courage you know so get out of this mindset of being wrongly femininely passive right that's the unholy feminine that's not the sacred feminine the sacred feminine says i care so much i'm gonna activate the sacred masculine and do something and not just the play to lose not just to back up and keep retreating retreating retreating you know and i know we have a different take on city life versus uh being outside the city and i'm not saying that i don't agree with you know having lots of space and you know being able to grow your own food in a more rural way of existence that's wonderful and i think you know more people should uh develop that and move it you know outside of cities and spread out instead of being so concentrated in one area that we damaged that part of the earth and choke it and you know destroy nature in that area but i don't like the mindset that i see from a lot of the freedom community [ __ ] the cities let people fester in there let it rot let it decay let moral decay take place there who gives a [ __ ] about anybody who lives there well i live in a city and a lot of other good people people on the one great work network live in a city and the point is not to just abandon that the point is to explain to people there that's where the concentrated population is this is where we got to do the work to get people to understand hey maybe it's not a good idea to just keep packing people endlessly into a city until you choke everything and and people feel choked and strangled they feel like rats in a maze you know that's why there's such low consciousness in cities especially this one you know talking about philadelphia one of the most corrupt cities in the world with the whole you know exposure of how the vote fraud took place it's no surprise to me i could have told you philly was the worst city i could have told you it was the worst uh you know uh place in the whole country as far as leftists are concerned i've seen this for over a decade saw encroaching before that so but the idea is i don't feel that people who live in rural communities should say just screw everybody in that area they should just be left to rot and it should just degrade infrastructurally and morally that's not solving anything that's not playing to win that's playing to lose your take on that you've answered so much of this in previous episodes i just told you with my schedule i'm not completely current with all the shows since now i you know got upgraded to like lead clerks on sundays i can't listen to your podcast so i'm a few of us was behind but everything i listened to before we can go back to your first 10 or 15 episodes you talked about um now i'm drawing a blank see the wonders we were talking about playing playing to lose in cities yes no no i get it but the thing is about um what the specific words i wanted to say here dammit well holistic was one thing i know awareness about everything but you were talking you mentioned before um god damn it i'm trying to remember episodes way back way way back in the day but the thing was that it's the either either or mentality all right and the abuse that's the thing so a dialectic [ __ ] was dialectic yeah that it's like people either everybody needs to be in the cities and nobody in this outside the cities or everybody needs to be outside the cities and nobody in the city like no it's a balance right this is where free will and anarchy and free choice come in that no those that want to be outside yeah you do your thing outside and you go live on your own and all that that's fine you want to stay in the city and close to people and group you're free to do that it's a balance it's not an either or thing not that living in cities or in centralized places is bad or good or and not that going off grid is bad or good it's a choice what freedom is it's a choice and it's a balance trying to stay away from the abuse that's right the abuse comes in when the rulers say no all this greenery forests and open areas that's all sacred land we need to preserve it so we need to force you into cities right that's bad right see [ __ ] them and that's going to create more imbalance in the ecosystem not less yeah right and then everybody's saying oh we live out here all you people in the city are bad like no there's a balance and this is again what's bad when everybody's in the city everybody's centralized now you got like everybody's crawling on top of one another and all this tension and satan is a meme me [ __ ] you get out the way see that's not a wonderful good environment and ivan it goes the exact opposite way it goes the opposite way you see people in the city calling everybody who lives out in the country oh country bumpkin oh they're inbred all that that that's just equally as as stupid nonsense and kind of you know purely ignorant on the part of uh city dwelling people i never think about rural folk like that at all you know uh i kind of admire them for their independence their sustainability their um you know self-reliance etc i think i can live in either environment personally um i don't see myself going way out into the woods somewhere on my own choice but i i can see myself doing something more less urban and a little bit more suburban etc uh without a problem um that's the person's choice the individual they might prefer individuality maybe just dumb a husband and wife or a couple they do their own thing and they don't like being around a lot of people and that's their choice that's how they survive other people they need that you need the interaction i need to feel the life i need the city okay then that's your choice right and so that's the balance of it and along those same lines and bringing in awareness again something you were talking about earlier about people you know it's like oh it's inevitable that you know playing to lose time time is very key be in the now right is important and good however awareness the past matters experience history knowledge how was it before but not to we need to go back to the past technology is evil and all this events and we need to no no not being a lot like from the past right yeah but the present is also important you have to be in the present but you have to think about the future also this is where a lot of that abuse happens the people you're talking about playing to lose they're just thinking about the future the future the future oh we got to worry about that well what's happening now right is there good stuff happening now bad stuff what are your actions decisions you're thinking doing now in the presence right instead of just thinking about the future you have the ability to teach people to expand to yeah to cover it all the past present and the future it all matters i agree so much i mean this is the kind of um understanding of how events are spread out over time that we need and again it's not discounting present moment awareness but it's not living in a future environment in a future state in your head it's understanding here's what's possible to do now to create change so when time does move forward and then it's the present moment in the distant future maybe it'll be changed for the better instead of an apocalyptic nightmare right so this is where i think a lot of the so-called freedom community is not in true present moment awareness they're in anxiety over the future anxiety over the future you know something so important that you brought up because if you're always living in that mindset of what's going to happen five ten years from now and it's going to be a bigger nightmare than we're even living now it's a self-fulfilling prophecy you know you're not actively doing something to change it look i've told people i think probably were inexorably moving toward a second civil war in america and that doesn't mean that i'm playing for that to happen i've told people if we don't change that's the direction things are likely to go and worse that that could be a timeline am i playing for that one well i have weapons i have ammunition i am making sure that should that timeline come because enough people don't change i'm not gonna just be a sitting duck i'm not gonna just lay down okay at the same time am i playing for that timeline to manifest is that what my energy is helping to manifest or is my energy saying as i've been saying since day one i'm trying to avert that potentiality i don't want to see that play out i want to play for a completely different outcome which is why i put out all of my material regarding morality and natural law so that people can help change themselves and therefore not manifest that dark and deadly outcome that i don't want to see it's not that hard right it's just you just gotta logically think through how are you thinking what are you doing is this the optimum thing what is the optimum outcome the optimum outcome that you could visualize in your imagination play for that outcome and i'm not even saying you need to play one hundred percent for that outcome if everybody instead of visualizing the negative and just playing for that outcome right and not doing anything in the present moment to try to change people morally right if we even gave 50 of our energy to the positive outcome and try to morally educate people just i'm saying put 85 in there that's my my number put 15 in the survival it's going to go to civil war and collapse basket you'd be nuts not to put anything in that basket right not telling you not to do that don't put words in my mouth or ivan's we're telling you yeah that's important but if you if you break down the energy percentage-wise ratio wise that you're giving to the negative outcome versus what you're giving to morally educate human beings in the now you're playing the lose if you if that number is way out of sync and this the the the eggs in the survival basket and in the collapse basket far outnumber the eggs in the let's teach people right now objective morality and natural law because we have the opportunity to do it if you're not doing that you're playing the lose and that's a bad idea it's a bad way to go about it i'm not playing to lose i will make people aware of the potential negative outcomes and i'll tell you hey i'm i'm definitely prepared should that come about but that's not what i'm playing that's not the manifestation i am trying to bring into existence and that i'm quote playing for play to win if you're gonna do this work do it to to win and visualize the optimum outcome and then make your actions about that positive outcome that's not to say don't prepare for a potential negative outcome but don't make that the the main basis of all your energy would you say that that's a fair appraisal of that a fair uh assessment or advice to people i concur i concur you know tying in along those lines the last few minutes here you know i know you have one a very important topic that you want to get to so we'll extend and cut into the calls a little bit but this is really important for everyone to hear so go ahead yes it ties in here with the awareness of past present and future and what you were just talking about doing the great work and our content creation and all that stuff is it just well i'm alive now i pay the domain name for my website and you know the hosting and so it's there now and that's that's all that matters that's all i care about that's it mark while you're live that's it what on earth is happening is here i want great work but when you die oh well don't don't worry about it it'll disappear in five ten years see this is us thinking about the future our awareness i don't think too many people who think about that the content we create and put out there is this gonna be around in the future for our children grandchildren next generation that's probably what the elites or the rulers or whatever you count on is that we're living in the present and we're putting this content out now but then once we're gone there goes our message information and now whatever other propaganda that's part of the cancer culture that's part of youtube censorship that's right let them put that crap out now whatever they can because they're not going to be around forever we need to be aware of that and think about in the future is our word is the truth that we're speaking still going to be accessible so that's something i wanted to bring up is yeah content creation and the one great work is important but what's its longevity are we planning you know right now ways to keep it around for well after that's right and and what that would entail is training other people to take over the technological workflow that you have established uh to be quite honest ivan i don't have that i don't have it uh if something happened to me tomorrow something happened to me tomorrow the these operations would not continue unfortunately it's just a reality um maybe people could preserve the actual data that that they could download but uh as it exists now no the answer would be no and that is because i would have to uh train people on the technology explain how i did things explain you know what services and providers i use how they would have to continue those uh those accounts and that a big important thing is leaving the operation to a person or another another person or a group of people and that would involve you know setting up some type of a will you know um and again it sucks that people would have to even go into any legal domain to do that not just say hey i want you to have it i'm you know i'm making a verbal commitment for you to take it all i'll write it down so that other people can see i've given that to you but a big part of what i'm dealing this uh dealing with now is um not having the passing on of property done correctly through legal channels unfortunately which is again a disgrace that even has to be thought of like that but that's you know something that i'm directly dealing with right now i don't know how much uh different it would be uh you know right now if something happened to me uh which is something that i need to seriously consider and take into account and perhaps uh do draw up um you know some some type of legal agreement of who would be continuing that uh if i decide to turn that over to anyone but again they'd have to be competent uh in the technology so that it's not going to be made a mockery of et cetera you know so these are all things that people should consider when they're doing this type of work it's uh very important to bring up it's i don't think it's a morbid consideration people never want to think about death you never want to think about you know passing on and what will happen after they're gone uh with important things like this uh so uh give me some of your solutions to that do you have any things that you might uh consider as a solution to that or how you would look at going about doing that i came to you for the answers mark now you mentioned something about a trust because as far as at least having like free or mine a z or what on earth is happening like like you mentioned in our conversation before some kind of trust funds where the funds are there private trust right yeah so that way at least for the next you know decade or two at least whatever bills need to be paid it stays online right but that can only go so far and also like you mentioned you got to come across people that you can trust and are knowledgeable that's right one example that stands out to me that's in the negative anyone who remembers maybe 10 years ago david ike he created his network the people's voice and it was great for a little while oh yeah right until some other kind of person got in charge and took it another direction and it went to [ __ ] so again you see right there that's a prime example of good intention a lot of content creators people doing the things but leaving the wrong person in charge that's right give me the reins of somebody else that's right bam it just goes to crap and i think he uh he corrected that uh with iconic which has gone in a much better direction for sure but yeah i remember people's voice and it was excellent when it first started and then like you said it degraded because the wrong people uh were actually directing it it's it's such an important consideration and uh it's just throwing it out there folks you know no one wants to think about dying but uh you know uh it's something we tend to avoid in in western culture uh you know discussing it's a dream theater quote i wanted to say there was a line in one of their songs they had a psychiatrist talking and he says death is not the end but only a transition right and that's true everything tran everything changes like you one of the hermetic principles nothing ever stops everything's emotional even the death is just changing into something else so if we pass if we don't do anything about it or plan ahead or are aware of of time and space and everything when we go this goes with us that's why we got to transition our operations yes absolutely just like we transition yes ivan that's a profound uh thought to to just think about i think uh you've actually sort of a lit little bit of a fire under me and i realize that's something that i'm gonna have to focus on and need to do and not wait a long time because another day is never guaranteed you know what i mean uh you know and again we're not trying to be morbid we're trying to just say hey anything could happen in the 3d reality life is not safe in general and we're not in a safe situation to say the least so it's something that people should definitely consider and make plans for so uh i think that is uh some really profound material to think about for uh you know uh food for thought there um so what do you say we um go to some phone calls to uh round out the show and see what people what questions they have for you and where they might want to take it see what i can answer if i don't know i don't know okay all right give me a moment here let's see how i'm going to handle this let me see if i can move this over any i'll try to keep you centered and i can still see the collars all right i think that'll work well here we go as a matter of fact let me hide my dock that'll help it even more and i'll bring it down like this beautiful okay all right let's hear from axel axel you are live on what on earth is happening with my special guest ivan oyola jr welcome hello mark how you doing doing well you hear me yes we can you're coming through loud and clear thank you great show i really appreciate everything you do and you you're like a mentor to me same as ivan thank you i've been watching your partner your podcast in order and i am at broadcast 199 i always listen to ivan to to the calling show section he brings great great point is very knowledgeable as you are as you are and your spot you inspire me to do the to to do the great work and put some content out to the people as well and because i'm very fed up to the ignorance of people you know as you guys are as well because people yet to see or don't see the evil of this planet like ivan said before people want to accept a wrong belief system and and try to tolerate evil and everything that is bad instead of doing something about it you know and it's very important to act about upon the evil and try to stop evil instead of saying oh there's nothing we can do about it and try to lay down and you know accept everything and that is why people are they try to tolerate evil that is why we heading to a totalitarian state quite frankly you know what i'm saying and yet people can see it and i want to ask a question to ivan about what he thinks about the the world health organization trying to do a world government with the un and with the all this crap called the monkey box because i know it's all a distraction because there's something very big coming many people and don't don't have any idea what's coming you know what i'm saying ivan your take on that yeah the little bit that i'm aware of with that it's it could be another psyop because they did have a little meeting not too long ago where they had scenarios played out it's like oh x amount of people may be exposed x amount dying and then oh this is going to is going to ramp up this and then we're going to have to go ahead and take you know uh the world health organization is going to have to take the reins to start giving governments their procedures of what to do when to lock down and all this yeah it's again kovit was a kick you know open the door for what uh the masters can and can't get away with which is basically everything because everybody locked themselves up at home and believed whatever came out of the cdc and world health organization so yes that world health organization pandemic treaty they're trying to pass and everybody believes hey it's justified because look at what we just had they don't think of it as a scam democrat that was an excuse for everything coming down the pipe but yeah yeah i agree with you it's people are not aware they're not awake they don't care and consequences we get what we deserve sadly because we're attached at the hip with all the rest of these sleeping people it was a psyop mcfly i gotta make that shirt because it covers everything and like i said on the back i'm probably gonna say which one question mark pick one period yeah because what hasn't been you know yep yeah absolutely master i see a lot of ignorance in the freedom community freedom movement ain't no freedom movement anywhere still people are ignorant it's very sad they buy into many psyops which is unbelievably how many people i personally know that did not recognize the whole coveted thing as a psyop and bought into it and went into fear mode and and quadrupled down even this long after everything was shown that it wasn't what they were making it out to be and the lies were happening and the treatments were being prevented they know all of this and they're still quadrupling down on it i am not i would not glorify them to even do them the service to say their name aloud but let me tell you something the profound disappointment as human beings that i feel for them knows no bounds that's all i have to say i would never even say their name allowed because as far as i'm concerned to me until they vocalized to the world how wrong they were they don't exist and that's many many people and i mean people who i personally know probably counts into 20 or 30. okay yeah i wouldn't i won't even speak their name aloud ever again axel i will bring bring it back to something we were talking about earlier in the show with awareness because awareness even on the regular people out there you would think any awareness would illustrate that when you're out in public and there's still all these hundreds of thousands or millions of people out there and yet we're being told that there was a pandemic that killed all these millions of people but we're still here and yet they want to still think that we need boosters or we might need go back to mandates or still walking around with masks that's a lack of awareness because your eyes are telling you like wait if thing if things were actually as bad as we were told a whole bunch of us wouldn't be here and i you know we're still here still here no vaccinations rarely didn't wear masks maybe a face shield at work but hello still here that should be proof already two years in yeah we should be okay okay we're good we built up our immune system or it was [ __ ] from the get-go and that that right there is part of that awareness that people need you know what the real the real infection and the real virus that spread was the fear oh and the mindset and the belief in the media that's what the viral agent that's what the contagion was and you know what their mental immune system the people that we're talking about here was not up to snuff their mental immune system was not bolstered enough to resist all of that viral agent of that fear and that absolutely incorrect mindset that was coming into them and being pushed by people all around them by people in their own communities by people in their jobs by people in their families etc you know so axel i want to thank you so much for the call uh great stuff thank you for calling in and bringing up those points uh just remember uh when the next one comes it's a psyop two okay oh yeah yeah real quick sure with that monkey pox the monkey pox again awareness don't discredit the possibility that that might be the vaccinated getting sick and oh look it's a new thing it's a monkey parks just just say don't discuss the possibility of that also don't discount that as occult mockery because they are saying epoxy upon the monkeys which is what they'll refer to us as monkeys apes primates you know um you know that's how they look at us they look at us as uh you know less evolved animals and um you know this is the the quote reptilians in a reptilian base brain consciousness saying uh the next viral disease that we're going to tell them that they have is that we'll let the monkeys believe that they have a pox you know it's it's definitely a form of a cult mockery as well i i joke around you know with jay parker you know we say oh the guys at tavistock reginald and and worthington are they're making their standard bet of uh you know one british one crisp british pound oh no no no we don't use the dollar in tavistock we still use the british pound it's one crisp british pound that they are wagering to uh see if they can convince the world to shut down over monkey pox now because reginald defeated worthington and had uh you know worthington had to give him one crisp british pound because he didn't think that uh they could shut the world down over the common cold so you know that's how it goes in the occult this is how it goes in the occult world yes yep all right uh let's go to another caller let's hear from chris chris you're live on what on earth is happening with my special guest ivan oyola welcome hey how's it going mark doing well all right um i was hearing you guys earlier and then i i apologize i crashed out so i'm gonna have to come back and catch switch the bulk of what you're listening to no worries do you have any questions for ivan yeah bro oh i know that he's uh you're uh big into like allegorical fiction in like right well movies yeah i'm a big into all this uh awakening yeah yeah yeah kind of same here like i liked uh reading books uh um but i had a particular at first i was into the westerns like lewis lamar and that kind of thing but um so i like to write and that's kind of what i'm geared towards is writing like an allegorical fiction or the just something that actually is along the lines of expressing you know true reality as it is even though it might be in a story form that's that's what i'm geared towards because i'm not big on you know just making [ __ ] up or whatever i don't that's what a lot of this is just take truth and just you know just inject truth and make your story and put it in there and put it out whether in books or movies or whatever because when you look around even the most outlandish kind of movies you can still find true core you know messages in there it's like wow that kind of what happened today yesterday in the past or today and yeah it's all has truth in there screenwriters are always putting allegorical content into their work uh obviously you have dark agendas going on inside hollywood but uh there are definitely people who are putting positive occult concepts in their work um you know there are people who are putting positive allegorical uh content and fiction out to help awaken people um you know i i think it's a powerful medium um you know look at look at somebody like even larkin rose uh who's on the one great work network with his book the iron web which was excellent allegorical fiction or no almost borderline not alicork almost borderline just saying it straight out you know but uh wrapped in a great fictional uh story that was a page-turner you know so uh i think it's a good medium it's a good good form because a lot of people want to take it in that way you could almost mask it as entertainment and meanwhile they're getting uh hit with very powerful uh moral storytelling right he mentioned westerns and i'm thinking of a film that i really didn't watch the whole thing but the key part sticks out to me the legend what is it the uh something uh oh my god i'm thinking legend of bag of brands but that's not it uh the man who shot liberty valance that key line in there that says when the legend becomes fact print the legend there's there's truth right there just a simple line when all this stuff is gone somebody's you know a reporter or something doing uh you know following up the story on somebody and putting it into print and they find out that it was all lies but yet everybody believes it to be true print the legend see so the there's get the message out yes yep all right i was actually covering uh no i'm sorry um i got except i had a long week sorry it's okay yeah do you have anything else yeah well one movie that i was watching uh earlier was called the fifth element that's a great yeah that has some pretty allegorical oh without a doubt without a doubt you know that's talking about you know you have to put all the other things together you know resources uh intellect uh emotions uh behavior will and but then the the ultimate element is uh spirit care you know true care you know so uh that's a very very good allegorical film there uh bruce willis right and um yeah i can't remember the uh actress's name milo joe that's it joe yeah great great allegorical fiction there uh and again that's it's uh it's alchemical you know it's an alchemical allegory basically put out in through hollywood you know so hollywood doesn't just do negative things or put out you know bad ideas and agendas uh i i may make a presentation about this dynamic at some point called the occult war in hollywood it's one of the things that's kind of on my back burner right now as far as presentations are concerned but i want to get to it at some point because i think it should be pointed out that hollywood is also a double-edged sword you could say very obviously negative things about what high-level producers and production companies often do uh they're certainly members of the cult at some point it connects in with with uh satanism however um there are definitely good screenwriters and good producers that are putting out brilliant allegorical fiction i think it's something that people have to keep in mind and it's it's a constant back and forth struggle going on within that whole community as well uh so it's not one thing a lot of people get hung up on oh it's just all this way no there's things there's battles going on behind the scenes that certain people are choosing to fight certain people pick different battles they they want to be careful about which battles they pick but uh there's definitely people waging that war even inside hollywood yeah you can i like to chime in with that how that ties into this episode about great work what's you know you earn money for and what you don't earn money for you have some people that make films like let's say the wachowskis with the matrix and all that but then if it becomes a little too much truth that's out there then some careers get sidelined it's like no no you're not towing the line you're expressing too much truth or you didn't put in too much of our message and agenda in there so you start seeing them become you know go down to little indy house and like no they're not no longer making these big blockbusters because they're not towing the line that helps enslave everyone so again yeah i think we in your earlier podcast mark you would maybe brought up how the masons the masonic order like in hollywood you have dark masonry but you may also have light masonry so this that ties into that constant struggle that there's good films being put out telling truth and then other films and content being created to enslave and dumb down and and occult things from people that's exactly right it's a it's a double-edged sword i mean uh art storytelling you know uh film all of it uh it's what we decide to do with it that's going to carry the true value of it and that's going to be determined by the consciousness of the person who creates it so brilliant points and uh chris thank you so much for the call on those points that were raised let's uh hear from james cordner a member of the one great work network and your partner in crime right ivan well one of them uh we he's been on with francesco a guy on the uh can you handle the truth in music he's been on like two or three times and stuff fixing up this crazy music that has truth in it i mean who would have thought music supposed to just entertain and get us to drink and have sex right i mean come on that's what music's for right welcome james yeah welcome thank you for thank you for calling on me sure how you guys doing today doing well all right excellent good to see you on the east coast ivan i've been listening this afternoon and really i just uh really just appreciate the time that you guys are taking today to like talk about all the stuff that you're talking about it's really important i think that that it you know gets spoken of the way that you guys are speaking about it it's like the the i wanted to touch upon the playing to lose part that you guys were talking about and you know there's kind of a way to maybe i was misunderstanding a few points that you were making but there's i think there's kind of a way to synthesize the playing to win and playing to lose where you're kind of preparing for the loss but you're also playing to win at the same time by reinforcing your community and of the people around you because if we lose we're kind of all losing together and if we can at least kind of win a small part of that by making sure that we're not going to turn on each other like a bunch of rabbit wolves where you know the people living in your street or in your town or whatever um i think that there's a way to do that and just like by doing a lot of like community work well excuse me a lot of community work and and whatnot by you know talking talking with literally everybody that you come into contact with about objective morality and making sure that there's like a a baseline of objective morality out there kind of rattling around in people's heads like no matter who you're talking to no matter what the topic is find a way to enter to like inject objective morality into that conversation uh that's kind of what i've what i've been doing a lot in my in my day-to-day interactions with people and then you actually mentioned me earlier in the show ivan and about the live streaming and everything that the past so yeah the show has been going good on my end and everything it's been like a year but like the the whole no post production part is like really exactly why i started doing the live streams is i've got the kids i've got the the job and the kids and the house and everything to take care of here with all the you know well not the kids but all the other like entropy with just like you know clean up the house and all this other good stuff that i have responsibility to um and so like the whole post-production thing is is really for me like kind of a hassle but the the trick is with live streaming and i'm sure mark you you understand this too better than most people having been on the radio and everything and it's you make mistakes you make mistakes and and you got to kind of go through go and like like you say push through and just keep powering through because even with the mistakes like you you make it's still like the the good message is still there of what you're trying to do and people will forgive those mistakes um i guess this isn't even really questions i guess i just had stuff no i i i hope you don't mind i fully agree ivan i'll let you respond to what james just brought up but i i agree regarding a live stream uh it's it's a more raw thing mistakes can happen um if you do um a lot of preparation to try to really limit what can go wrong ivan helped me today do the process that i do every single week i have what's called a standard operating procedure document that most people with some type of a production workflow will build this uh you could just say it's a you know how to document but they generally call it a standard operating procedure or sop and then you just go through your list you know say at this time we're going to do this we're going to make sure this is working right and then you just make bullet points or it's like a checklist and you check off the boxes one at a time you know ivan was here today and uh he helped me with the uh you know standard operating procedure document we just went right down the line and that helps to eliminate problems that you might encounter if you do this and make it a standard procedure every week when you do your live stream or every day however often you do it it will cut back on uh little time wasting mistakes that you know show up as you know something oh well you know he could have prepared more for that or eliminated that that error uh that's what i recommend that people do and again that's it's actually another part of how to become the true media we go through these things you know and i you know show you how to draw up a document like that you know or just explain it and uh you know show you what's in mine and things like that you know like you'll see the inner sides of a production environment like this uh taking a course like that so um again uh everybody on the one great work network is welcome to come into the uh how to become the true media seminar i i scholarship all content creators and producers and middle end people everybody who's on the network can take uh the uh how to become the true media seminar so uh they could learn you know little tactics and techniques like that and learn other little uh things that help things go more smoothly like ndi and other technologies um tell just briefly before uh ivan responds to what you're saying uh james i just wanna tell like what is your workflow with video do you use a particular service do you just go in-house and stream out of you know something like obs what's your what's your general procedure or setup well i use obs and uh through obs i integrate vdo.ninja okay into obs for to uh bring on guests okay and uh throughout the last like i guess eight months where i got interested in live streaming i've just you know for a couple for like a couple of months actually all i did was i i didn't live stream i i had the ability to i was just sitting there on my computer messing around with obs seeing how everything worked what you could do with that tool yes exactly like trying to make sense of it for myself and and uh and whatnot it's a nice tool i i i use something a little different than it that it's like has many many more capabilities i was showing that to ivan earlier but uh obs as as open source freeware is an excellent tool that anybody can download immediately and start you know picking apart and understanding the interface and its capabilities i think it's a great tool yeah all it takes is a little time and attention and and seeing how the scenes and how the different sources get plugged into the scene right and like and what their capabilities are like how you can even run a uh a slideshow presentation straight through obs and just have to learn how to you know even bring in a browser source all this stuff it just takes time and you can you know you can figure it out and and everything in fact like i i even share uh my knowledge on it with the limited knowledge i have with people like ivan and sean and whoever whoever comes and asks me i just hey this is what i know and this is how i can help you learn the stuff i know it's not thorough but it's what i know that's what that's what we should be doing as a community supporting each other helping each other out communicating uh explaining you know how to uh do like little tricks and techniques you know to save people time and their own energy etc it's all part of resources it's like resource sharing and skill sharing james one more quick question and then i'll let i even respond um the video ninja thing that you were talking about is this a uh free service is it paid is that you have like a scale of uh you know price how does that work video dot ninja is well you would type that into your url you and that brings you to essentially a website and it's free it's absolutely free okay it plugs into obs through different links you create a room you enter the room as the director as all the it's they call it the director and you'd also enter the room as a participant so you enter the room jointly as both director and participant it provides you under if you're the director it looks different if you're a part just straight up participant it looks like a zoom call as far as i know interesting so as the director you're provided different links for each video feed because it uses everybody's browsers together to create the zoom call zoom call yeah i'm not familiar with this service off to check it out thanks for bringing it up to me see i i always am learning new things in the class in the seminar people are bringing up things to me that i wasn't aware of you know so i you know i learn things i'm constantly learning new things all the time it's a never-ending process so thanks for uh mentioning that uh ivan i'll let you uh respond to what sorry go ahead one other thing about video ninja is that i like is that there's a discord server for where you can talk to the people that created it directly so if you're having a problem with it there's also tutorials online on on well on youtube and different videos and stuff like that where the creators of the service walk you through how to use it and if you still can't get what you want you could actually talk to them you can yes i've talked to the guy who created it directly i've messaged him and he's gotten back to me it's pretty good customer support there for a freeware tool you know yeah yeah i think he was sick of playing uh i think something went down during the scam demo he was sick of paying for a zoom so he created his own nice and it's actually kind of wonderful it's very cool it's a little rocky but you get used to it after a little bit and it's for a one to one thing like just bringing a guest on it probably works sufficiently the rooms support up to 30 people okay all right and you and i mean i wouldn't i wouldn't recommend bringing thirty people but that's i think the limit of the capabilities for the for the product pretty well pretty good yeah awesome yeah so uh go ahead ivan uh respond to what james was referring to i'm sorry what did he say i'm always walking around with james yeah james did that for me i mean we were on what what did we do we were did our music stuff with francesco and after we were done we stayed on while like about an hour we screen shared and you walk me through some of the uh different things for video editing and obs or whatever so yeah and then the thing is just like this show while we're the theme james didn't charge me anything for it no money no no proxies were required in order for to exchange knowledge and information imagine god forbid that's right you guys are criminals well that's because your your time and attention is i can't ask anything for in trade that's enough for me you you gave me your time and attention and to me that was just that was just like i'm not wasting my breath here here's a guy who's gonna like eventually he's gonna retain this and he's gonna eventually use it and he's going to do good with it so why should i withhold it you know it's the whole idea about what we do is the knowledge whether it be with tech or even just the you know the philosophy and the and and the know-how of how to apply these these principles into our everyday life if it can be that or the tech either which way who are we to take that and to keep it for ourselves and charge an entrance fee it doesn't make sense to me yeah that's why i've tried to keep everything as free as possible with wall on earth this happening and one great work network instead of putting things behind pay walls and things like that i know people do that for different reasons i'm not going to just outrightly terribly judge them for that but at this point in history we have to make this information out there as freely as possible as far as i'm concerned so i i applaud anybody that tries to uh you know not go to those that type of a model if they absolutely have to okay so be it but i think your your approach to it is the right one i have one uh i have one other thing to to really say um about that lap before you guys started taking calls ivan you guys were making another point about the future and and everything and uh it brought to mind something that i have had rattling around in my brain for quite a while now ever since the first time i heard it and it's a quote attributed to a man named hyacinth leucine and he said blessed are those who plant trees under whose shade they will not sit there you go and to me having children in a world as excuse my language but as in a world as [ __ ] up as this world is we we need to we need to take that what i just said that quote man that hits right home with me sure and i'm so glad that you guys like that toward the end of uh your talk you guys kind of started talking about that it's like the kind of a solutions uh in the future like we can't forget about that there's going to be a future whether we are here or not you know and we got to plant those trees those trees man we can't be selfish that's passing our skills along to the next generation of human beings so it's a very very very important aspect of it without a doubt yeah yeah these these podcasts they kind of serve as like a time capsule as well yes uh you know it's it's it's extremely important you know especially with objective morality making sure that that that one point gets driven so hard into people's heads it's just we're gonna fall apart without it and we're already close to that and we can i believe we can pick the pieces back up and put ourselves back together but without objective morality it's not possible yes but with it with that understanding i think we could turn this around that hour 11 minute 59 second 59 it's a choice in the moment but we do require that basic knowledge of objective morality and natural law without that there's no foundation upon which uh any future stands james a brilliant points uh thank you for sharing uh aspects of your own workflow uh ladies and gentlemen james corner of one great work network content creator thank you for the great work that you do james thank you without guys i guess you know ivan you know man you you like took me under your wing in a way you're like hey come here buddy and mark you know man like the work that you've been doing over the years i was resistant sean mccann like was like look at mark's work look at mark's work for like years and years i've always been like a non-conformist for a very like geez for like almost it feels like forever but you know the ebbs and flows of the world man sean mccann was like look at this dude's work and i was like yeah yeah yeah and then i finally did because i was angry i was really angry about about how things were going and i heard you talking to jay parker one day and you just went off for like an hour and i was like this dude gets me and i was just like all about it from then on out and then i started hearing ivan's voice coming through the radio waves and it's just like from it inspired me to make my own show there you go and and then it was like i'm gonna i'm gonna take this little this little torch and i'm going to carry it too synchronicity good synchronicities there yeah yeah i got to meet all these guys and like you guys all inspire me and i just want to be i just want to be like not letting anyone down oh not at all you're doing great stuff brother keep it up thank you thanks for your time and yeah and also just like i made the effort i'm here with mark face to face this is well maybe the fourth fifth time we do this the free your mind conferences you came out to the conference in arizona and then also being here make use be aware the awareness i didn't just come from my son's wedding it's like look i'm here i can go to philly there's mark and guess what i saw joe murray the other day and tomorrow monday joe murray and i will go up and we're going to meet up with james and we're going to hang out face to face see so this people all three of you i didn't know anything about you guys who are 10 years ago 15 years ago but yet the truth and honesty and doing in the work look we get to meet we come together and that's what it's about you know we're not just on the internet each other digitally artificially that's right in real life they're now face to face the hugs the the warmth the emotion is like okay we're real people we exist and this ties into again to the freaking topic the theme of the show if we let money and you know the way everything's supposed to be rule us well i can't afford to go i got to work i don't have the time for this and that we stay distant we stay separated but little by little said no [ __ ] that i'm going to go ahead and save up some money make the trip hey you took the day off tomorrow to be able to do this joe took the day off tomorrow to do this see so again bucking the system saying no we're not going to conform to the rules and regulations like oh you got to do this to make your money in order to feed clothing shelter yourself we're like no no we're going to change that and do what matters what's important because this comes before all the monetary stuff if we're being honest with us that's right and in person uh networking and getting together uh is extremely important and it's a part of an emotional support system as well in addition to just sharing ideas so uh i think that that should be kept in mind as well and uh and practiced so uh great point for uh great thing to bring that up as well ivan james thank you so much for your call on the points that you raised uh keep up the great work my my friend well thank you guys for your time ivan i'll see you tomorrow buddy mark thank you i'll uh i'll hear you again next week possibly even maybe one of these days you and i can have a chat absolutely like that absolutely no doubt great thank you peace out guys bye-bye james all right ivan you know what i i want to just cut a little bit in the call time to ask you a question myself uh so here's my call in um i want you to uh because one of the things that i get from people who are uh thinking about starting to do the great work and start to talk about natural law and objective morality out in the public one of the things that i find is their biggest point of hesitancy is they think that the technical aspect of all of this is going to be too difficult for them they think maybe they don't have the actual capacity or ability to understand it what was your learning curve like when you were starting to look at the technology involved and start starting to utilize it to actually use it how difficult did you find that process how how hard was it for you what was the learning curve like um you know did you build that up in your mind as i feel many people do uh and then find it wasn't that bad was it as bad as you imagined just give me your take on all of that you're talking like making the like the podcast yes everything that you did using the computer yes all of it technologically it's like everything else it's a hurdle it you know it's a it's a like a hump you got to get over it's like i'm very technically i know technical stuff you know i'm into home theater stuff movies you know with vcrs tvs and speakers home theaters electronics electronics and i'm good i'm okay with gadgets computers i never went to schools for any uh classes for that or anything but trial and error i just jumped in like what's this dude what's that do what's this do and that was it as far as surfing the internet and printing stuff and okay then when it came to this the same thing applies like all right i have some information all right let me step into the arena what do i know how what can i do here oh i can record this adjust the levels it was too loud too low and just trial and error you just keep messing around with it and you figure it out okay i'm good with the audio i edited it it's on it's out there done uh let me try the video stuff then you dabble some more it's like oh that you know the resolution was too low it looked too pixelized or the fire was too big you know it's like just little things trial and error trial and error but the thing is i started i didn't jump completely in but yet you tiptoe you know okay you try it this is good you step a little more like like the escalator that i was saying the steps i was saying before you know you started with the audio podcast then you know the resolution goes higher and then it's more you get guests on you learn how to talk with people ask questions you know a little by little you keep advancing but the thing is to start like everything else is just begin begin get started and and don't stay in the same spot i mean it's fine i mean at least you're doing something that's the other balance thing too grow your skills right yeah but if you're doing something you're doing more than all the others that are not but don't stay stagnant don't stay right there and content i mean you know again we may not need to judge people and be like oh okay but then you know it's a natural thing or you're like dude you can be doing so much more you know hey girl come on you know you got this information you're doing this you can you can bump it up a bit keep it evolving growing it growing is natural you know you keep going it's a progression you just keep going important if you already started just keep that's right the important part is you began you didn't stay not begun unbegun you began you didn't let fear hold you back from starting that's the biggest stumbling point that's the biggest sticking point that people have something built up in their mind about why they can't do something and so they never begin all that is is a mental virus that's something to take away possibility from yourself the only thing that you got to do is shift that into you know what i don't think i can i can't i can't to i'm gonna just try you don't even have to think i definitely can i absolutely am going to i'm not even going to say it doesn't even have to be that positive how about that okay it could be way more neutral and it could be like let me try and see what it is that's it just go to that right that's progress that's at least stepping out of fear and saying i'm going to try to do something instead of doing nothing so i was going to say this ties into stuff we were talking about earlier awareness if you're not aware of the possibility that you can be a podcaster a truth speaker because of fear oh my [ __ ] up i might mess up well guess what you're in fear you're not trying but if you're aware of the possibility all right let me let me at least just record 10 minutes on a thing hey you know what i think government is slavery i think you know everything's keeping us down and and i think there's a possibility okay you're aware of your possibility you did something now you keep going and the more you keep trying the fear gets less that's right possibilities your awareness and possibilities expand and you go from recording a little 10-minute audio thing to doing a two-hour you know uh video round table with three four five people from all over the world you're in in arizona somebody's in new york somebody's in italy somebody's in the uk all that from us recording 10 15 minutes on an audio thing and you went from there to here because you grew your skill sets uh you became more aware of how things work and in the process you'll you'll grow your audience as well um all people have to do is break out of that mindset of i can't and i'm not good enough and you know i'm too afraid to try to just try you don't have to fully succeed at first you learn by making mistakes you learn by failure as well you shouldn't be afraid of that that's that's life lessons we're going to talk about that in the class as well you know learning from your mistakes how failure is important you know and just never giving up so um you know i just wanted to bring that up and ask you about your personal process as far as the learning curve and what you thought you know was possible i'm glad to see that you didn't take the attitude of fear and you just jumped in and and tried and saw what you could do and then built up your skill sets from there i think that's great advice for anybody who's just starting out uh for the people who have a little bit of fear and trepidation the thing that makes that go away the most is knowledge so something like the how to become the true media seminar i'll just go straight out with a plug for it you will get over that fear because you will develop so much knowledge about how things actually do work you won't be afraid of them anymore knowledge dispels fear that's what the seminar is partly all about all right let's go to someone else here let's hear from jackie jackie you are live on what on earth is happening with my special guest ivan oyola jr of the one great work network welcome hi can you hear me yes i can yes great oh well i'm calling from phoenix ivan it's hot as ever out here oh okay right from your neck of the woods yes yes yeah something i wanted to bring up is that since i started doing the one great work making my own content myself i've been realizing that i think that we should actually be using the same tools that the dark occultists are using and i think that could mean going so far as to implement like trigger words color psychology maybe even like marketing or sound and subliminal messaging so i wanted to see what you thought about that i'll i'll jump in on that topic first and then turn it over to ivan i'll be pretty brief i honestly do not have that much of a problem with that the only problem i would have with it is if people tried to keep on doing that to someone after they've shown they get it they're learning they're becoming auto didactic and and doing their own self-learning process uh you have to know when to take those reins off when they're not you know tug on those reins anymore it's like educating a child uh and then eventually allowing them to go into the world and make their own choices and decisions so i'm gonna say i don't have a moral problem with it if it's done for the right reason if it's done for true moral education and the practitioner is using techniques like that out of true agape love and care for the development of the mindset and understanding of that individual but the rains have to definitely come off at some point and that's my general take on it and that may surprise some people but i think tools are generally neutral and it's how we use them and if that's done for the great work of morally educating people i say so be it and use every uh tactical advantage at our disposal if we understand how to use those tools they are there for a reason and it is a razor's edge to walk you have to already be in the consciousness of not controlling because some people can look at what the potential of that is and see you can really definitely um lead someone in in almost any direction you want them to go i i've repeatedly thought about this in my own work and i've i have used some techniques like that um and i feel like i did walk that razor's edge and not um you know try to hold those reins on people uh longer than should uh and i think i've really uh like spurred some people on with with anger it's another technique i mean people have brought it up um with you know giving people a swift kick in the ass if they're not really motivated and doing what they should um i don't i really don't want to be like some father figure getting up in people's face like that i don't really see myself in that role i want to see myself more in a role of equals and peers etc that and having mutual respect for each other as as adults quite frankly but uh my take is those methods are fine as long as we use them in the right capacity and with the correct intentions in mind uh and we take the reins off when required what when you know and not keep that pr that lever pressed any one second longer than it has to be ivan your take on that yeah it sounds like training wheels but if you notice i think i probably use that in a more subtle kind of way and i stick to the colors if you notice my free your mind website from the first day i haven't even updated that whole background but it's the black basic black but in the top it's got like that rainbow transition it goes like for you know with the red blue and green so always with the colors like the police you know red and red and blue red and blue to keep you going left brain right bring left but i always put the green in there for the balance right same thing with the truth mine reality conference i used that in creating the symbol the logo there too where was the thoughts the flame knowledge illumination you know that was blue creativity imaginary but then the reality thinking that's the red logic but then the imagination and you know creativity was green to balance and then recently also with the uh sanitizing the insanity also did used it with that showing people that were red and blue red and blue red and blue but then this uh the sponge cleaning that was named truth was in green turns are green the people that it went over turned green see so that was little subtle ways of using those you know symbols and ways of getting you know those coated information kind of thing to in the positive it's like oh look and even when i do most of my uh podcast video casts and stuff i know you know i'll learn from you mark here in july how to create more of the title cards and you know putting stuff in there but for the most part when you go to my website or one great work network you see a lot of my title cards just basic green with the black letters on there because again green i just want to keep the balance natural balance you know earthly that that welcoming thing is green that feels healthy and natural so that's one of the subtle ways that i'm kind of you know using is the through the colors nice excellent jackie i want to bring up one more resource um you also mentioned like speech patterning word choice things like that those are generally part of an overarching meth set of methods called nlp or neuro-linguistic programming now i would rather look at it as neuro-linguistic influencing rather than just the word programming but if you study nlp i'll give you a um a good there's a lot of nlp information on the arc drive as well as a matter of fact but i'll give you one gentleman's name that i think uh employed and and people will say oh this he was a bad guy or you know he was accused of bad things i'm not talking about any of that i'm looking at simply his technique his method if you study richard bandler's work uh who's probably one of the forefront guys on nlp you'll see how he used word patterning word choice etc and i find his work to be an excellent resource again you can believe what you want about things that happened regarding him and his life and again it's part of separating the person from the work that they've put out into the world some people could tell you i'm not a good person to deal with and people can choose to believe them or not you know uh nobody's perfect in life nobody's an angel you know so um you know always uh obviously take with a you know a grain of salt a person's personality and their their themselves as an individual but if you look at their words and what they are saying you could take you know very great uh understanding from that so i i would um recommend the work of richard bandler b-a-n-d-l-e-r richard bandler on nlp if you're looking to look further into that type of a topic just wanted to throw that out there for you thank you yeah bandler's work is on there so definitely check it out excellent ladies and gentlemen i think that's all the time we have for this edition of what on earth is happening ivan tell them where they can find your work freerminez.com anywhere else and one great work network ivan thank you so much for the great work that you do uh phenomenal guest here on what on earth is happening i love all the topics that you brought up we had some great callers check out freermind az for ivan i always work ladies and gentlemen and remember government is slavery we'll see right here next week